243 win.

[Bruce Mc]

Hawkeye, the rifle shoots really good but is still ugly as sin. I did add a steel trigger guard, plastic just don't cut it for that. I adjusted the trigger down to 3 1/2 lbs and it seem pretty crisp. Again not bad for a cheap rifle. I'd say the trigger on this one is much better than the one on the 700 ADL 25-06 I bought at Academy nine years ago. I like the rifle alot, even with the cheap stock. Maybe a coat of olive green paint will dress it up a bit.

 

[George Foster]

I have always had excellent luck with Sierra 100gr bullets using IMR4831 powder for whitetail deer. Another excellent whitetail bullet in the 243 is the 85HPBT Sierra once again with IMR4831. I also have very good results using IMR4064 in both the 243 WIN and 6MM Rem.

I have always used Rem Brass for both the 243 and 6mm.

 

[desertcj]

I am going to need to get some brass for the 243 when I get the rifle what do yall suggest?

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Lapua is the best I've used. I also use some Winchester with prep work...

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

A .243 win 700 Remington ADL I bought at Academy before Christmas shoots sub MOA with 90gr Accubonds and Reloder 22. That load chronographed at 3130 fps in a different 700 with a 2" shorter barrel. It shoots groups a tad over 1/2" with a 70gr BT and Reloder 16 at 3650 fps.

Would you recommend getting a new Remington ADL?
I have a buddy who says they aren't worth buying.
But I've always heard good things about the rifles, and have read good reviews.
I would like to buy one, but am conflicted.

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[HAWKEYESATX]

With you guys talking about .243's, I had to go out and get one myself. I realized I didn't have a super predator rifle in my small arsenal. I've had prior experience with the .243 in the past, and love the little cartridge.
I decided to go with a Remington 700 ADL, and am swapping the scope out.

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[bobnob]

Smithy, a good 100g BTSP will do everything you want insofar as what you stated in the OP. The 95g NBT would more than fill the bill too.

I actually really like the Speer 100g BTSP as an all round game bullet and they are cheap too. Very accurate for me and they’ve got a healthy drag profile.

I like H4350 and R17 for bullets in that weight range. But we don’t have such a wide range of powders available in Australia - you have many more options.

 

[Michael C. Smith]

Thanks for the info. This project is on hold right now. The rifle is going back to Remington. It will not shoot. I have put 68 rounds down the tube. It will group anywhere from a 1 in group to 8inches. I have already taking it to a gunsmith that put it in a Macmillan stock and put a known good scope on it. He had the same results as i did. We have tried two factory ammos. I tried nosler and hornady bullets and 2 different powders with the same results. Disipointed right now to say the least. This was my first rem700.

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[desertcj]

That's a real bummer to hear. I've tried a lot of loads in the 2 .243's I have. The Savage shoots most anything under an inch but it took a lot of work to find what it likes. It will do 3/8" groups. The Mossberg will only do 1" with the best loads. Some were 3-4" which is obviously pretty dismal. 8" groups has to be something really wrong!

 

[bobnob]

Well that sucks.

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

Just to throw something out there....

Did you try a regular Spitzer bullet?
Maybe it liked a longer bearing surface on the bullet to get decent groups?

Just my 2 cent's worth.

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[darrelldavies51]

I had to chage my 243 from a howa to a browning Abolt cos it would not group the heaver bullits

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[bobnob]

Yes the Howa is a 1-10. No good for 105+ grain bullets.

 

[Michael C. Smith]

Just to throw something out there....

Did you try a regular Spitzer bullet?
Maybe it liked a longer bearing surface on the bullet to get decent groups?

Just my 2 cent's worth.

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Yea I tried the hornady 100g btsp interlock with h4350. Same results all over the place. The gun will shoot a decent group then the next one may be 6 Inches.

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[Michael C. Smith]

Here is a example of a target shot with h4350. Here was a ladder test shot r19. First 4 shots tight cluster 5 was 4 inches high then number 6 back in the tight cluster. Then the rest were all over the place.

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[HAWKEYESATX]

Im sorry, I should have been more clear when asking about the bullet selection. Have you tried using a flat based bullet, instead of a boat tail? Like the one in the picture?

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[desertcj]

Hopefully Remington replaces the gun or the barrel for you. From those targets, my guess is that the barrel is copper fouling really badly after a few shots?

 

[Michael C. Smith]

Im sorry, I should have been more clear when asking about the bullet selection. Have you tried using a flat based bullet, instead of a boat tail? Like the one in the picture?

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Yes tried some like on the right.

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[Michael C. Smith]

Hopefully Remington replaces the gun or the barrel for you. From those targets, my guess is that the barrel is copper fouling really badly after a few shots?

The gunsmith seems to thank there's something going on in the chamber area. The barrel isn't coppering up very bad.

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[HAWKEYESATX]

Im sorry, I should have been more clear when asking about the bullet selection. Have you tried using a flat based bullet, instead of a boat tail? Like the one in the picture?

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Yes tried some like on the right.

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I would try the one on the left, to see if your rifle likes a longer bearing surface on bullets. I would play with the bullet seating as well, to see if your rifle might have a longer than usual neck (freebore), and it may require you to seat your bullets out a little further than usual.
I have had great results with the Sierra Game Kings in .25-06. Extremely accurate, and lethal, and didn't show that much more drop down range compared to the boat tail Spitzer.

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[jimbires]

man it seems a guy would have to try and get one to group that poorly . looks to be mechanical . I'd say a lot more than a good load will correct .

I didn't go to the beginning and reread through this thread , maybe you already answered these questions . excuse me if you did . I'm not trying to be a smart aleck . maybe one of these will turn the light on , and help you solve the problem .

is the scope mounted tight , rings and bases ? is the scope good ? is the stock touching on the barrel ? does the magazine box float ? are the action screws tight ? is the front sling stud touching the barrel ? is the barrel tight in the action ? does the crown look good ? is the stock hammered out at the recoil lug ? are you keeping the sand bags under the stock , and not touching the barrel when shooting ? wrapping your thumb up over the barrel ? magneto speed attached ? that's all I can think of for now .