wildman
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Looking for some load data 130 game changer Win. Staball 6.5 powder Tika hunter rifle 22.4 barrel .
260 Remington
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rjm158
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I don't know where all you've looked but I checked the Hodgdon Annual Manual and the Sierra manual but neither shows that bullet weight as being compatible with StaBall 6.5. Hodgdon first shows it with a 142 Sierra Matchking.
I don't have QuickLoad so I can't look there for you.
Ron
I don't have QuickLoad so I can't look there for you.
Ron
Guy Miner
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This is the closest I could find on Hodgdon's online data center. Perhaps use it as a starting point in your load development?
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wildman
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I don't think some of the bigger corp. want a lot of data put out , for fear of hurting creedmoor sales I might be wrong .
gerry
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I have the same components waiting for my Tikka 260 Rem so would find this interesting as well. Since you mention a 22.4" barrel do you have a Tikka or a Sako?
I've had a 260 of some sort since 1997 and it's never disappointed, such a good cartridge. The Tikka is my favorite of them and the one that I'll keep.
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wildman
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Gerry sir it's a Tikka t3 Hunter with wood stock one of the best shooting rifles I have ever owned ..
gerry
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Nice, those Hunters are great rifles! Mine's a Stainless Lite left hand. I went with a M+ magazine and modified the bolt stop and can load out to 3.00" or so. It's super accurate too.
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wildman
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I done a search for your QL but nothing would pull up for it ..
Here is the 125
QL Request 260 Rem
Hi, I'd like to request a QL for few powders; 260 rem 2.78 COL 17" Barrel WLR primer R-P Cases 125gr Nosler PT The powders I have H4831 IMR 4831 H4350 H4895 StaBall 6.5 IMR 4064 thanks in advance
forum.nosler.com
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wildman
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Thank you this will give me a place to start from.....
according to my sierra #6 it has a coal @ 2.800" and no mention of 6.5sta-ball
powders listed are .....
varget
big game
n540
imr4350
imr 4451end
a4350
h4350
rl16
rl17
100v
rl19
4831sc
imr4955 end
rl22
n560
same data for the other 2 130's from sierra. the hpbt @ 2.650" with velocity @ 2,800 w/ 24" barrel
you'd need to go to the 6.5creed for the sta-ball to work. however, match might be a good fit?
powders listed are .....
varget
big game
n540
imr4350
imr 4451end
a4350
h4350
rl16
rl17
100v
rl19
4831sc
imr4955 end
rl22
n560
same data for the other 2 130's from sierra. the hpbt @ 2.650" with velocity @ 2,800 w/ 24" barrel
you'd need to go to the 6.5creed for the sta-ball to work. however, match might be a good fit?
Guy Miner
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This thread is such a great example of guys on this particular forum helping each other.
Thanks all, and thanks to Nosler for supporting this forum.
Regards, Guy
Thanks all, and thanks to Nosler for supporting this forum.
Regards, Guy
I don't have the " game changer " bullet listed . I do have a " tipped game king " that should get info close enough to keep you out of trouble .
6.5 staball gives a good case fill . it's down on velocity by about 200 FPS , compared to the top powders . I'd say it's worth a try , since you already have it .
it looks like the powder should max out at 46.5 grains . I'd start at 42.0 grains and work up towards the max . watch for pressure as you go . if you have a chronograph , use it while you do your powder ladder . it looks like right at 2800 FPS is what this powder should max at .
Cartridge : .260 Rem
Bullet : .264, 130, Sierra TGK 4330
Useable Case Capaci: 47.117 grain H2O = 3.059 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder : Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 80 37.20 2265 1481 30783 8112 95.9 1.494
-18.0 82 38.13 2320 1554 32864 8330 96.8 1.456
-16.0 84 39.06 2375 1628 35088 8535 97.6 1.419
-14.0 86 39.99 2429 1704 37470 8726 98.3 1.381
-12.0 88 40.92 2484 1781 40018 8902 98.9 1.339
-10.0 90 41.85 2538 1859 42751 9060 99.4 1.299
-08.0 92 42.78 2592 1939 45680 9201 99.7 1.259
-06.0 94 43.71 2646 2020 48826 9324 99.9 1.222
-04.0 96 44.64 2699 2103 52205 9427 100.0 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 45.57 2752 2186 55842 9516 100.0 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 46.50 2804 2270 59762 9601 100.0 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 101 47.43 2856 2355 63987 9682 100.0 1.084 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 48.36 2908 2441 68555 9760 100.0 1.053 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 105 49.29 2960 2529 73497 9834 100.0 1.023 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 107 50.22 3011 2618 78856 9904 100.0 0.993 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 109 51.15 3063 2708 84677 9970 100.0 0.965 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 46.50 2900 2427 71705 9267 100.0 1.042 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 46.50 2660 2042 49034 9852 98.4 1.216
6.5 staball gives a good case fill . it's down on velocity by about 200 FPS , compared to the top powders . I'd say it's worth a try , since you already have it .
it looks like the powder should max out at 46.5 grains . I'd start at 42.0 grains and work up towards the max . watch for pressure as you go . if you have a chronograph , use it while you do your powder ladder . it looks like right at 2800 FPS is what this powder should max at .
Cartridge : .260 Rem
Bullet : .264, 130, Sierra TGK 4330
Useable Case Capaci: 47.117 grain H2O = 3.059 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder : Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 80 37.20 2265 1481 30783 8112 95.9 1.494
-18.0 82 38.13 2320 1554 32864 8330 96.8 1.456
-16.0 84 39.06 2375 1628 35088 8535 97.6 1.419
-14.0 86 39.99 2429 1704 37470 8726 98.3 1.381
-12.0 88 40.92 2484 1781 40018 8902 98.9 1.339
-10.0 90 41.85 2538 1859 42751 9060 99.4 1.299
-08.0 92 42.78 2592 1939 45680 9201 99.7 1.259
-06.0 94 43.71 2646 2020 48826 9324 99.9 1.222
-04.0 96 44.64 2699 2103 52205 9427 100.0 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 45.57 2752 2186 55842 9516 100.0 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 46.50 2804 2270 59762 9601 100.0 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 101 47.43 2856 2355 63987 9682 100.0 1.084 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 48.36 2908 2441 68555 9760 100.0 1.053 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 105 49.29 2960 2529 73497 9834 100.0 1.023 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 107 50.22 3011 2618 78856 9904 100.0 0.993 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 109 51.15 3063 2708 84677 9970 100.0 0.965 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 46.50 2900 2427 71705 9267 100.0 1.042 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 46.50 2660 2042 49034 9852 98.4 1.216
powder list . these would be max powder charges
Cartridge : .260 Rem
Bullet : .264, 130, Sierra TGK 4330
Useable Case Capaci: 47.117 grain H2O = 3.059 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60191 psi, or 415 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 107.9 50.4 3.26 3005 100.0 60191 12267 1.098 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C 108.4 49.1 3.18 2967 98.7 60191 12202 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 98.2 44.8 2.90 2948 100.0 60191 10930 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 *C 110.0 48.8 3.16 2944 95.5 60191 12225 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 101.0 46.7 3.03 2939 99.8 60191 11452 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Elcho 17 97.3 44.3 2.87 2927 100.0 60191 10863 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 97.3 44.3 2.87 2927 100.0 60191 10863 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 50.8 3.29 2921 93.6 59420 12170 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C 110.0 48.3 3.13 2921 97.3 59482 11858 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 48.3 3.13 2921 97.3 59482 11858 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 110.0 48.3 3.13 2921 97.3 59482 11858 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 108.0 48.2 3.12 2918 95.8 60191 11791 1.096 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 102.2 43.2 2.80 2914 100.0 60191 10857 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T 102.2 43.2 2.80 2914 100.0 60191 10857 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T 109.4 46.6 3.02 2914 100.0 60191 11069 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 108.8 47.8 3.10 2901 95.6 60191 11651 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 104.3 45.1 2.92 2900 100.0 60191 10376 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 100.8 45.9 2.97 2897 99.9 60191 10975 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 109.5 51.8 3.36 2896 97.8 60191 11348 1.099 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 518 102.8 46.1 2.99 2891 99.0 60191 11152 1.112 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511 98.7 45.7 2.96 2889 99.2 60191 11092 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 102.0 45.7 2.96 2888 99.2 60191 11075 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 106.5 46.3 3.00 2883 97.3 60191 11269 1.108 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 96.3 44.2 2.87 2881 98.7 60191 11052 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 96.3 44.2 2.87 2881 98.7 60191 11052 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 105.7 45.7 2.96 2879 97.1 60191 11172 1.102 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 107.2 46.6 3.02 2876 97.2 60191 11183 1.108 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP *C 101.5 43.6 2.82 2871 99.9 60191 10666 1.120 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 101.5 43.6 2.83 2871 99.9 60191 10663 1.120 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 *C 98.5 43.7 2.83 2870 99.8 60191 10789 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 100.8 43.8 2.84 2869 99.9 60191 10656 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon LVR 98.8 42.9 2.78 2864 99.7 60191 10619 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 *C 100.8 45.2 2.93 2856 97.0 60191 10940 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 104.1 45.2 2.93 2856 97.0 60191 10940 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 104.1 45.2 2.93 2856 97.0 60191 10940 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 110.0 46.7 3.03 2855 100.0 55237 10779 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T 110.0 46.7 3.03 2855 100.0 55237 10779 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 106.5 44.3 2.87 2854 99.9 60191 10445 1.129 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 106.8 46.9 3.04 2850 98.1 60191 10830 1.127 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Cartridge : .260 Rem
Bullet : .264, 130, Sierra TGK 4330
Useable Case Capaci: 47.117 grain H2O = 3.059 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60191 psi, or 415 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 107.9 50.4 3.26 3005 100.0 60191 12267 1.098 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C 108.4 49.1 3.18 2967 98.7 60191 12202 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 98.2 44.8 2.90 2948 100.0 60191 10930 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 *C 110.0 48.8 3.16 2944 95.5 60191 12225 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 101.0 46.7 3.03 2939 99.8 60191 11452 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Elcho 17 97.3 44.3 2.87 2927 100.0 60191 10863 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 97.3 44.3 2.87 2927 100.0 60191 10863 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 50.8 3.29 2921 93.6 59420 12170 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C 110.0 48.3 3.13 2921 97.3 59482 11858 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 48.3 3.13 2921 97.3 59482 11858 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 110.0 48.3 3.13 2921 97.3 59482 11858 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 108.0 48.2 3.12 2918 95.8 60191 11791 1.096 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 102.2 43.2 2.80 2914 100.0 60191 10857 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T 102.2 43.2 2.80 2914 100.0 60191 10857 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T 109.4 46.6 3.02 2914 100.0 60191 11069 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 108.8 47.8 3.10 2901 95.6 60191 11651 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 104.3 45.1 2.92 2900 100.0 60191 10376 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 100.8 45.9 2.97 2897 99.9 60191 10975 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 109.5 51.8 3.36 2896 97.8 60191 11348 1.099 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 518 102.8 46.1 2.99 2891 99.0 60191 11152 1.112 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511 98.7 45.7 2.96 2889 99.2 60191 11092 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 102.0 45.7 2.96 2888 99.2 60191 11075 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 106.5 46.3 3.00 2883 97.3 60191 11269 1.108 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 96.3 44.2 2.87 2881 98.7 60191 11052 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 96.3 44.2 2.87 2881 98.7 60191 11052 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 105.7 45.7 2.96 2879 97.1 60191 11172 1.102 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 107.2 46.6 3.02 2876 97.2 60191 11183 1.108 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP *C 101.5 43.6 2.82 2871 99.9 60191 10666 1.120 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 101.5 43.6 2.83 2871 99.9 60191 10663 1.120 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 *C 98.5 43.7 2.83 2870 99.8 60191 10789 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 100.8 43.8 2.84 2869 99.9 60191 10656 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon LVR 98.8 42.9 2.78 2864 99.7 60191 10619 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 *C 100.8 45.2 2.93 2856 97.0 60191 10940 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 104.1 45.2 2.93 2856 97.0 60191 10940 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 104.1 45.2 2.93 2856 97.0 60191 10940 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 110.0 46.7 3.03 2855 100.0 55237 10779 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T 110.0 46.7 3.03 2855 100.0 55237 10779 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 106.5 44.3 2.87 2854 99.9 60191 10445 1.129 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 106.8 46.9 3.04 2850 98.1 60191 10830 1.127 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
rjm158
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Jim, the Gamechanger and Tipped Gameking are the exact same bullet. Sierra refers to them both ways for some reason.
Ron
Ron
Guy Miner
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Yes. I've shot the 140's from a 6.5 Creed and found good accuracy. Spent some time checking on the bullet name to make sure that the Tipped GameKing and the Gamechanger were indeed the same bullet. They are. Two names for one bullet.
Guy
TackDriver284
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Those bullets are on my future list to try out. Hopefully someone can put these in water jugs. Curious on the results.
NBT seems to have a thicker base and a less jacket thickness in the ogive than the GameChanger.
NBT seems to have a thicker base and a less jacket thickness in the ogive than the GameChanger.
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