I picking some 130 e-tips up, thinking deer and elk, will I have enough speed to open them up at long range, anyone have field experience, I know the Dr has with his wsm. I have Magpro, r17,r19, hunter to load with. A QL would be great and some field experience, just worried about them opening 400-500 yards out. Thanks all
270 win and 130 E-tip, anybody have pet load or QL
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DrMike
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- Nov 8, 2006
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I haven't shot the E-Tip in the 270 Win, but I should imagine that you will have more than enough velocity to open properly.
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 77 44.08 2543 1866 33993 10514 96.2 1.325
-18.0 79 45.18 2604 1957 36190 10795 97.1 1.293
-16.0 81 46.28 2664 2049 38534 11058 97.9 1.261
-14.0 83 47.39 2725 2143 41040 11301 98.6 1.230
-12.0 85 48.49 2785 2240 43714 11522 99.1 1.200
-10.0 87 49.59 2846 2337 46576 11721 99.5 1.171
-08.0 89 50.69 2905 2436 49637 11895 99.8 1.142
-06.0 91 51.79 2965 2537 52913 12044 100.0 1.112
-04.0 92 52.90 3023 2639 56426 12168 100.0 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 94 54.00 3082 2741 60191 12282 100.0 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 55.10 3139 2845 64233 12393 100.0 1.018 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 98 56.20 3196 2949 68573 12500 100.0 0.989 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 100 57.30 3253 3055 73246 12603 100.0 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 102 58.41 3310 3162 78268 12702 100.0 0.933 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 104 59.51 3366 3270 83638 12797 100.0 0.907 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 106 60.61 3422 3380 89400 12887 100.0 0.881 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 55.10 3252 3053 77710 11951 100.0 0.944 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 55.10 2968 2542 52045 12763 98.5 1.115
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-19
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 84 45.84 2454 1738 33261 9880 86.7 1.342
-18.0 86 46.99 2515 1826 35416 10219 88.1 1.310
-16.0 88 48.13 2576 1916 37718 10552 89.4 1.277
-14.0 90 49.28 2638 2009 40179 10878 90.6 1.246
-12.0 92 50.42 2700 2105 42812 11194 91.8 1.215
-10.0 95 51.57 2763 2204 45632 11500 92.9 1.185
-08.0 97 52.72 2826 2305 48652 11795 93.9 1.155
-06.0 99 53.86 2889 2409 51890 12076 94.9 1.126
-04.0 101 55.01 2952 2515 55368 12343 95.8 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 103 56.15 3015 2624 59104 12594 96.6 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 105 57.30 3079 2736 63121 12828 97.4 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 107 58.45 3142 2850 67447 13044 98.0 0.998 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 109 59.59 3206 2967 72084 13239 98.6 0.968 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 111 60.74 3269 3085 77056 13414 99.0 0.940 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 113 61.88 3333 3206 82418 13566 99.4 0.912 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 116 63.03 3396 3330 88212 13694 99.7 0.885 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 57.30 3228 3008 75166 12740 99.9 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 57.30 2883 2399 51778 12274 90.7 1.124
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Accurate MAGPRO
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 87 50.56 2422 1694 31284 10220 79.3 1.373
-18.0 89 51.82 2490 1790 33485 10631 81.0 1.337
-16.0 92 53.09 2559 1890 35866 11038 82.7 1.302
-14.0 94 54.35 2628 1994 38436 11439 84.4 1.268
-12.0 96 55.62 2699 2103 41241 11833 85.9 1.234
-10.0 98 56.88 2771 2216 44277 12216 87.5 1.200
-08.0 100 58.14 2844 2334 47578 12588 89.0 1.167
-06.0 102 59.41 2917 2456 51176 12946 90.4 1.134
-04.0 105 60.67 2991 2583 55100 13287 91.7 1.096
-02.0 107 61.94 3066 2714 59392 13610 93.0 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 63.20 3142 2850 64094 13911 94.1 1.021 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 64.46 3218 2990 69258 14189 95.2 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 65.73 3296 3135 74944 14441 96.2 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 66.99 3373 3285 81223 14665 97.1 0.917 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 68.26 3451 3439 88138 14857 97.9 0.885 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 69.52 3530 3598 95772 15016 98.5 0.853 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 63.20 3338 3217 79128 14129 99.0 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 63.20 2894 2418 51086 12914 85.0 1.130
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 81 45.44 2483 1779 33729 10073 91.0 1.340
-18.0 83 46.58 2543 1867 35920 10389 92.2 1.307
-16.0 85 47.71 2604 1958 38260 10696 93.4 1.275
-14.0 87 48.85 2665 2050 40761 10991 94.4 1.244
-12.0 89 49.98 2726 2146 43439 11274 95.4 1.214
-10.0 91 51.12 2787 2243 46302 11542 96.3 1.184
-08.0 93 52.26 2849 2342 49371 11796 97.1 1.155
-06.0 95 53.39 2910 2444 52657 12032 97.8 1.125
-04.0 97 54.53 2971 2548 56158 12251 98.4 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 99 55.66 3032 2653 59878 12450 98.9 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 56.80 3092 2760 63852 12629 99.3 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 103 57.94 3153 2870 68110 12786 99.6 0.999 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 59.07 3213 2980 72677 12920 99.9 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 107 60.21 3273 3093 77581 13031 100.0 0.942 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 109 61.34 3333 3206 82853 13118 100.0 0.915 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 111 62.48 3392 3321 88527 13197 100.0 0.889 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 56.80 3225 3002 76109 12236 100.0 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 56.80 2907 2440 51936 12400 94.4 1.125
At 400 yards you will have a velocity of ~2300 fps. At 500 yards, you will still have a velocity of ~2120 fps.
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 77 44.08 2543 1866 33993 10514 96.2 1.325
-18.0 79 45.18 2604 1957 36190 10795 97.1 1.293
-16.0 81 46.28 2664 2049 38534 11058 97.9 1.261
-14.0 83 47.39 2725 2143 41040 11301 98.6 1.230
-12.0 85 48.49 2785 2240 43714 11522 99.1 1.200
-10.0 87 49.59 2846 2337 46576 11721 99.5 1.171
-08.0 89 50.69 2905 2436 49637 11895 99.8 1.142
-06.0 91 51.79 2965 2537 52913 12044 100.0 1.112
-04.0 92 52.90 3023 2639 56426 12168 100.0 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 94 54.00 3082 2741 60191 12282 100.0 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 55.10 3139 2845 64233 12393 100.0 1.018 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 98 56.20 3196 2949 68573 12500 100.0 0.989 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 100 57.30 3253 3055 73246 12603 100.0 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 102 58.41 3310 3162 78268 12702 100.0 0.933 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 104 59.51 3366 3270 83638 12797 100.0 0.907 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 106 60.61 3422 3380 89400 12887 100.0 0.881 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 55.10 3252 3053 77710 11951 100.0 0.944 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 55.10 2968 2542 52045 12763 98.5 1.115
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-19
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 84 45.84 2454 1738 33261 9880 86.7 1.342
-18.0 86 46.99 2515 1826 35416 10219 88.1 1.310
-16.0 88 48.13 2576 1916 37718 10552 89.4 1.277
-14.0 90 49.28 2638 2009 40179 10878 90.6 1.246
-12.0 92 50.42 2700 2105 42812 11194 91.8 1.215
-10.0 95 51.57 2763 2204 45632 11500 92.9 1.185
-08.0 97 52.72 2826 2305 48652 11795 93.9 1.155
-06.0 99 53.86 2889 2409 51890 12076 94.9 1.126
-04.0 101 55.01 2952 2515 55368 12343 95.8 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 103 56.15 3015 2624 59104 12594 96.6 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 105 57.30 3079 2736 63121 12828 97.4 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 107 58.45 3142 2850 67447 13044 98.0 0.998 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 109 59.59 3206 2967 72084 13239 98.6 0.968 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 111 60.74 3269 3085 77056 13414 99.0 0.940 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 113 61.88 3333 3206 82418 13566 99.4 0.912 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 116 63.03 3396 3330 88212 13694 99.7 0.885 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 57.30 3228 3008 75166 12740 99.9 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 57.30 2883 2399 51778 12274 90.7 1.124
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Accurate MAGPRO
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 87 50.56 2422 1694 31284 10220 79.3 1.373
-18.0 89 51.82 2490 1790 33485 10631 81.0 1.337
-16.0 92 53.09 2559 1890 35866 11038 82.7 1.302
-14.0 94 54.35 2628 1994 38436 11439 84.4 1.268
-12.0 96 55.62 2699 2103 41241 11833 85.9 1.234
-10.0 98 56.88 2771 2216 44277 12216 87.5 1.200
-08.0 100 58.14 2844 2334 47578 12588 89.0 1.167
-06.0 102 59.41 2917 2456 51176 12946 90.4 1.134
-04.0 105 60.67 2991 2583 55100 13287 91.7 1.096
-02.0 107 61.94 3066 2714 59392 13610 93.0 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 63.20 3142 2850 64094 13911 94.1 1.021 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 64.46 3218 2990 69258 14189 95.2 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 65.73 3296 3135 74944 14441 96.2 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 66.99 3373 3285 81223 14665 97.1 0.917 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 68.26 3451 3439 88138 14857 97.9 0.885 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 69.52 3530 3598 95772 15016 98.5 0.853 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 63.20 3338 3217 79128 14129 99.0 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 63.20 2894 2418 51086 12914 85.0 1.130
Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 130, Nosler E-Tip 59298
Useable Case Capaci: 59.194 grain H2O = 3.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 81 45.44 2483 1779 33729 10073 91.0 1.340
-18.0 83 46.58 2543 1867 35920 10389 92.2 1.307
-16.0 85 47.71 2604 1958 38260 10696 93.4 1.275
-14.0 87 48.85 2665 2050 40761 10991 94.4 1.244
-12.0 89 49.98 2726 2146 43439 11274 95.4 1.214
-10.0 91 51.12 2787 2243 46302 11542 96.3 1.184
-08.0 93 52.26 2849 2342 49371 11796 97.1 1.155
-06.0 95 53.39 2910 2444 52657 12032 97.8 1.125
-04.0 97 54.53 2971 2548 56158 12251 98.4 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 99 55.66 3032 2653 59878 12450 98.9 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 56.80 3092 2760 63852 12629 99.3 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 103 57.94 3153 2870 68110 12786 99.6 0.999 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 59.07 3213 2980 72677 12920 99.9 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 107 60.21 3273 3093 77581 13031 100.0 0.942 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 109 61.34 3333 3206 82853 13118 100.0 0.915 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 111 62.48 3392 3321 88527 13197 100.0 0.889 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 56.80 3225 3002 76109 12236 100.0 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 56.80 2907 2440 51936 12400 94.4 1.125
At 400 yards you will have a velocity of ~2300 fps. At 500 yards, you will still have a velocity of ~2120 fps.
If you go over to ramshot powders and check their data the have the etip along w/a great mix ofother bullets. In general their data says they hit Max pressure w/the tip about 1.5-2 grains under other 130 bullets....also about 100 fps slower. If it were me working up I'd probably be subbing 140 data.
Now...on the good side..usually etips have a really good BC....so it likely could make up for a slightly slower mv when down range.
I really like looking over ramshots data just too get an idea how "sticky" many of the new bullets might be...even if not using their exact powder.
Now...on the good side..usually etips have a really good BC....so it likely could make up for a slightly slower mv when down range.
I really like looking over ramshots data just too get an idea how "sticky" many of the new bullets might be...even if not using their exact powder.
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