270 Win and barrel length

[Guest]

Just some thougths about barrel length. I`m going to buy a new rifle this spring.
I would like to buy a Ruger Hawkeye All Weather. The stock looks like an ordinary plastic stock, so I`ll probably spend some money on a Bell & Carlson. They`re handsome, and of what I`ve heard durable and rigid. The weather here could be nasty at times. One day this winter, out hunting for the lynx, we had -22" Celsius. Not sure what that is in Fahrenheit, but cold enough. In autumn it could rain for a week etc etc.

I like the 270 Win cartridge, but the Ruger has a 22" barrel length. I`m not that conserned about the velocity, I could go for max or near max loadings, and get good enough velocity.
But with the large for caliber case I believe the 270 Win deserves a longer barrel to burn powder. And not to forget the muzzle blast and the noice.............

So, I`ve started thinking about the 7 mm 08 cartridge. It would perform well with the 22" barrel. And it`s "enough gun" for deer, wild bore and an occasional moose hunt.
Think I`m settled for both gun and cartridge, just wanted to shear the thoughts.

 

[jmad_81]

My wife shoots a 7-08 with a 22" barrel and I love it! She does to but I do all the load work for it, she practices a bit and kills deer with it. Your looking at 2750-2850 max with a 140gr bullet. Plenty fast for 300-400 yards if you practice alot. Not that you would want to shoot a moose that far even if you could. I am really impressed by what this little 7 can do. I fine choice in my mind. Maybe on the light side for moose, but will work if you put a good bullet in the pump station.

 

[DrMike]

Balto,

Your weather in Norway is not dramatically different from weather in northern British Columbia. I have hunted on more than one occasion when the temperatures were between -30 and -45 Celsius. I've hunted in heavy rain and in fog, because that was when I was able to get out. The Boyd stock will stand you in good stead; however, the Hawkeye stock is a good stock that should not give you concern for durability. Twenty-two inches is a good compromise for most cartridges. I have a 22 inch barrel on my 280 (as well as my 350 RM, my 358 Hawkeye and my 30-06). There is sufficient velocity to ensure good energy retention in each of these cartridges to well over 400 yards. Certainly, in heavily forested areas, 22 inches is more than adequate.

As an aside, the 7mm 08 is an excellent cartridge. I have a hunting partner that carries a 7mm 08 (with a 20 inch barrel), and it is enough to bring down elk and moose, to say nothing of mule deer and whitetails. Loaded with a stout bullet, the rifle you are considering will be very good for the hunting you do.

Best of luck, and let us know what you decide.

 

[Big Squeeze]

Just some thougths about barrel length. I`m going to buy a new rifle this spring.
I would like to buy a Ruger Hawkeye All Weather. The stock looks like an ordinary plastic stock, so I`ll probably spend some money on a Bell & Carlson. They`re handsome, and of what I`ve heard durable and rigid. The weather here could be nasty at times. One day this winter, out hunting for the lynx, we had -22" Celsius. Not sure what that is in Fahrenheit, but cold enough. In autumn it could rain for a week etc etc.

I like the 270 Win cartridge, but the Ruger has a 22" barrel length. I`m not that conserned about the velocity, I could go for max or near max loadings, and get good enough velocity.
But with the large for caliber case I believe the 270 Win deserves a longer barrel to burn powder. And not to forget the muzzle blast and the noice.............

So, I`ve started thinking about the 7 mm 08 cartridge. It would perform well with the 22" barrel. And it`s "enough gun" for deer, wild bore and an occasional moose hunt.
Think I`m settled for both gun and cartridge, just wanted to shear the thoughts.

...................................Balto!..............A 22" barrel length was pretty much the standard barrel length from the rifle makers for the 270 and 30-06. The only advantage to the longer barrel, would be a very slight increase in velocity which won`t matter anyway.

Secondly, the powder is instantaneously burned upon ignition and before the bullet leaves the barrel, and what remains coming out of the shorter barrels are gases, not unburned powder.

I don`t think you`ll see too much of a muzzle blast or noise difference between a 22" or a 24" barrel, and regardless of barrel length, you "should" be wearing some type of hearing protection for field use anyway.

I had a 10 lb with scope 24" barreled 300 Win Mag for 35+ years and converted over to a much handier and lighter 7 1/2 lb with scope, 16.5" barreled shorty 300 WSM Ruger Frontier carbine 3 years ago. A huge difference for the better in the field when hunting. With the hearing protection I wear for field use, there`s no problem with any additional noise and no problem with muzzle blast for that matter. Imo, better manuverability, better handling speed, shouldering speed, and better with easier all day carry ability, trumps any additional noise or blast.

Either the 7/08 or the 270 are great rounds for deer, wild boar and with the right bullet, throw a moose in there too.

FWIW, Ruger also makes the 20" barreled Hawkeye Ultralite in the 270. A nice and sweet handling package. Don`t worry about the 20" barrel length either......Heck! My .375 Ruger Alaskan has the 20" barrel!

Go after the best rifle and barrel length best suited to your hunting style for better all day carrying, better handling and manuverability and then worry about the very trivial stuff later.

 

[FOTIS]

My son has a 22" barreled Savage 270.

We get 3100 fps and 2920 fps with 130 and 150 grain bullets respectively. No problem.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

I've shoot .270's with anywhere from a 22' to 26" barrel. In a .270 win, with H4831 (sc), the 26" barrel will gain you 200 FPS over a 22" barrel. Unfortunatly about the only way to get a 26" barrel on a .270 Win is to go custom.

 

[sask boy]

Hi, I have a Remington CDL in a 270 and they come with a standard 24" tube. It is by far the most accurate of the 270 rifles that I have owned.
I owned Winchester, Browning, plus the Remington BDL.
I have not owned any Ruger products but have heard lots of good things about the Hawkeye and one of my buddies just order one in a 243 with a 22" barrel. At any range out to 500 yards you would not know the difference.

Blessings,
Dan