.270 with a 22" barrel

[filmjunkie4ever]

I've read a lot of Jack O'Connor which says that a .270 with a 22" barrel was not only not a handicap but preferred by himself due to being more handy.

However, it seems like a 24" barrel would do this cartridge more justice.

I have recently acquired a Charles Daly Mauser in .270 with a 22" barrel.

I am only interested in shooting 130 grainers in this gun as I have a .30-06 if I need more bullet.

Anyone have any "safe" load ideas which will get between 3050-3100 fps in a 22" .270 WCF barrel?

 

[pre6422hornet]

I have used O'Connor's pet load of IMR4064, 49.5 grains, and 130 grainers for the better part of 16 years with no issues at all. Case life is long and accuracy is superb.

Now I run a 24 inch barrel and chrono'd this recipe at 3000fps.

 

[SJB358]

Seems like JOC's load of 58-62 grains of H4831 is still a great combo as well.

 

[gerry]

My H&R single shot 270 Win shoots factory 130's at just under 3000 fps so I would expect handloads could break 3000 fps safely. Have only worked with the 150 gr Deep Curl in handloads so far but have some 130 gr bullets on the shelf to try.

 

[6mm Remington]

I load for a buddy with 130 gr. Partitions, 59.0 grs. of H4831SC, and Federal Large Rifle Magnum primers for about 3050 in a 22" barrel. IMR4350 with Federal Large Rifle primers also worked great and resulted in about the same fps.

David

 

[Hegland]

FJ -

I achieved 3,050 with the 130 PT using 55.5 grains H4350 with Federal 210M primers in my M70 Featherweight, which also has a 22" barrel. However, 55.0 grains was more accurate in this rifle and still produces over 3k. Also an extremely stable load, clocking 3,020 in July at about 85F ambient, and just over 3,000 with temps in the teens.

For what it's worth, this load of 55.0-55.5 H4350 has worked well in every .270 I've tried it in, with both 22" and 24" barrels, and across a variety of 130 grain bullets.

Using David's H4831 load with standard LR primers, I got 2,970 out of my Featherweight. If 4350 wasn't working so well I'd be tempted to try the magnum primers as he suggests.

Best of luck!

 

[filmjunkie4ever]

Thanks guys, this sounds like a good accurate load with either the 4064 and 4350 powders. I have plenty of both. Am only looking to shoot 130s so this sounds like what I was looking for thanks.

FJ4E

 

[Anonymous]

I don't think a 24" is at all req'd for the .270- especially with modern powder.

3100fps with 54gr RL17 and a 130AB...that's max book but it has no pressure signs at all and if it didn't shoot so well I might be tempted to go a little beyond. But realistically there's no reason to try.

 

[Guy Miner]

I don't have one, and may never, but the .270 Win has always impressed me. Based on the wonderful .30-06 case, and it shoots a very lethal 130 gr game-killing bullet FAST. Sometimes we forget what a flat shooter the .270 is...

Most riflemen think of the .25-06 as a high velocity number. Truth is the 115/117/120 gr bullets from the .25-06 are roughly as speedy as the 130's from the .270 Win. Both are flat shooting cartridges, and for real long range work they're both a little crippled by bullet selection. Good enough for 400 yard mule deer & pronghorn shooting though!

Guy

 

[FOTIS]

60 gr h4831 or rl22 pending on 130 grain bullet

 

[filmjunkie4ever]

I don't have one, and may never, but the .270 Win has always impressed me. Based on the wonderful .30-06 case, and it shoots a very lethal 130 gr game-killing bullet FAST. Sometimes we forget what a flat shooter the .270 is...

Most riflemen think of the .25-06 as a high velocity number. Truth is the 115/117/120 gr bullets from the .25-06 are roughly as speedy as the 130's from the .270 Win. Both are flat shooting cartridges, and for real long range work they're both a little crippled by bullet selection. Good enough for 400 yard mule deer & pronghorn shooting though!

Guy

Guy, Im a dyed in the wool .30-06 fan as well but the .270 is nonetheless an impressive cartridge. I plan to use this for a deer rifle and purely load those 130 grain bullets.

And you're right the .25-06 (which I also own) is at best a .270. I like to load the 100 grainers in my .25-06 just to keep from redundancy.

My guide goes thus-

.25-06 - 100 grain

.270 - 130 grain

.30-06 - 165 grain

 

[Da Wolf]

I am shooting a 270 with a 22" barrel, and with I am sending the 160 grain PT out at around 2725 FPS with RL-19. I don't see why you should not be able to get 3000 FPS with the 130 grain bullet. I would look at Nosler's load data as they are pretty accurate. Mine is only 25 FPS off from what Nosler has published.

 

[ColColt]

I've owned four 270's over the years and still have two, a JOC Custom Tribute Rifle(22") and a 1952 Model 70(24"). About 60 gr of H4831 goes with the 130 gr bullet like peanut butter and jelly. Ditto on the 49.5 gr of IMR4064. A great combination as well. I've found mine have always done better with IMR4350 and the 150 gr bullet.

 

[filmjunkie4ever]

Anyone try that load of 52 grs of H4350 with 150 grain bullets from the Nosler manual?

That seems like a real good load...even though i plan to use only 130's in mine.

 

[Ridgerunner665]

I'm running 55 grains of H4350 in my wife's 270 with 130's...2,980 fps, very accurate and consistent...22" barrel, model 70 Featherweight.

I'm certain I could go higher...but why?

The upper 3 rounds are at 100 yards....the lower 3 are at 200 yards, and the flyer to the left was all me...knew it as soon as the trigger let the firing pin go (loud gun nearby fired as I was squeezing the trigger on that shot...spooked me a little)

 

[ColColt]

I'm certain I could go higher...but why?

Indeed! :grin:

Here's one of mine at 100 yards and a 4X Lyman American.

 

[Ridgerunner665]

I will add...

The velocity you can get from a barrel varies greatly...some factory barrels are better than others in the speed department.

One 22" barrel may reach 3,000 fps...another 22" barrel may only reach 2,850 fps...I have seen this with my own eyes.

 

[DrMike]

One 22" barrel may reach 3,000 fps...another 22" barrel may only reach 2,850 fps...I have seen this with my own eyes.

And for the average hunter, that difference will make scant difference. Few shoot at such distance that they require the additional velocity.

 

[Ridgerunner665]

One 22" barrel may reach 3,000 fps...another 22" barrel may only reach 2,850 fps...I have seen this with my own eyes.

And for the average hunter, that difference will make scant difference. Few shoot at such distance that they require the additional velocity.

Yep...that's true too.

Even at 2,850 fps....a 130 grain Ballistic Tip is deadly on deer at 400 yards.

Traditionally, I'm one who wants all the speed he can get with acceptable accuracy...but I'm slowly learning that speed isn't as important as I once thought.

Edit: No...I have learned it...but I'm still learning to like it...old habits die hard.

 

[Oldtrader3]

Re: what DrMike said: my .270, Model 70 with 24 inch barrel and 55.0 grains of IMR 4350 only gets about 2930 fps anymore. I have killed many deer with this combination over the past 50 years and none of the DRT deer have complained about low velocity (LOL). Your 22 inch barrel should be fine.