orangecrush7
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- Oct 19, 2006
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Looking to purchase a flat shooting round for Elk and was wondering if anyone could provide comments with pros / cons on .270 WSM vs. .280 Rem rounds....
.270 WSM vs. .280 Rem
- Thread starter orangecrush7
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- Oct 30, 2004
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I do not think the killing power is all that different between these two..... at ranges under 200 yards or so. In my opinion the 270 will use 150 gr bullets and the 280 will have to use 160 os so (for elk). If we accept these prerequisites I would say that the 270 WSM will launch 150 's at about 3100 fps (easy) as opposed to 2800 fps or so for the 280 Rem. Given the above the 270 WSM would make hits easier out to say 300-400 yads. My buddy, and a poster here Brad, used the 270 WSM to drop a big cow elk at 446 yards last year. Not to say the 280 could not have done it but I personally would not attempt it.
Now if you want to compare apples to apples then compare the 270 WSM to the 7mm WSM or 7mm Rem Mag. Then you're really will be splitting hairs!
Now if you want to compare apples to apples then compare the 270 WSM to the 7mm WSM or 7mm Rem Mag. Then you're really will be splitting hairs!
remingtonman_25_06
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- Nov 17, 2005
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Kinda what I"m thinking to POP. These are 2 different class of cartridges. The WSM is much better for longer ranges due to having quite a bit faster muzzle velocity. I would opt for the 7mm WSM for long range elk hunting and flat shooting. Shoot a 160g at 3000fps and you have a rifle/cartridge that will take game waaaaayy out there.
There really isn't much diff. between the two out to 400yds.
160grNP @ 2800fps:
0 @ 250yds
-17 1/2" @ 400, -6 3/4" 10mph drift = 1939ft#
150grNP @ 3000fps:
0 @ 250yds
-13 1/2" @ 400, -6 1/4" 10mph drift = 2091ft#.
Either will handle elk at that range & deer a bit farther. I love the .280. :grin:
160grNP @ 2800fps:
0 @ 250yds
-17 1/2" @ 400, -6 3/4" 10mph drift = 1939ft#
150grNP @ 3000fps:
0 @ 250yds
-13 1/2" @ 400, -6 1/4" 10mph drift = 2091ft#.
Either will handle elk at that range & deer a bit farther. I love the .280. :grin:
Accubond Believer
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- Oct 29, 2005
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The 270 wsm is equal to a 270 weatherby minus the belt. My 280 AI equals the famed 7mm rem mag with any factory loadings. In a nut shell all are excellent cartridges if the shooter has faith in the rifle / cartridge combo it is the best thing for that shooter since smokeless gun powder.
Last year I killed my cow elk a 460 yards with the .280 AI and the 160 accubonds. Today I shot a double on whitetails the doe first a freak 5x5 buck with the second shot at under a 150 yards. Same load same gun.
Just my two cents....
Steve D. the HP
Last year I killed my cow elk a 460 yards with the .280 AI and the 160 accubonds. Today I shot a double on whitetails the doe first a freak 5x5 buck with the second shot at under a 150 yards. Same load same gun.
Just my two cents....
Steve D. the HP
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fredj338":1s25d4c7 said:
Can you split hairs that thin?
:lol:
The 280 Remington is loaded pretty weak by the factories. With handloads it should be ok.
What matters more than the cartridge to me is the specific rifle.
In the WSM's the rifle that stands out is the Kimber 8400. It's light and handy not that a 280 can't be made up as a Featherweight.
The 280 was popular at one time for custom rifles. Today the 270 WSM is quite popular.
Note that Nosler has a rifle chambered for the 280AI.
What matters more than the cartridge to me is the specific rifle.
In the WSM's the rifle that stands out is the Kimber 8400. It's light and handy not that a 280 can't be made up as a Featherweight.
The 280 was popular at one time for custom rifles. Today the 270 WSM is quite popular.
Note that Nosler has a rifle chambered for the 280AI.
savage, my .280 is a custom job built up on a M70 action. A ft.wt. style stock w/ Neidner steel butt plate, 23" ft.wt. bbl. from PacNor. With a Leup. 3x-9x compact, it comes in just under 7 1/4# ready to hunt. I don't think I would want it much lighter. For deer & antelope, a 140gr NP or NAB @ 3000fps is certain death & as a back up elk rig w/ 160grNPs @ 2800fps, I feel good about my chances out to as far as I can reliably hit (400yds).
The .280 is definetly a handloaders round for best results, but there are some good factory rounds out from Federal & if you can find any of the Speer Nitrex stuff loaded w/ 145gr & 160gr GS, just amazingly accurate in my rifle & vel. are right at the top end of any handload I have ever put together. :grin:
The .280 is definetly a handloaders round for best results, but there are some good factory rounds out from Federal & if you can find any of the Speer Nitrex stuff loaded w/ 145gr & 160gr GS, just amazingly accurate in my rifle & vel. are right at the top end of any handload I have ever put together. :grin:
