30-06- 125gr b-tips for deer

[chuckslayer]

Has anyone tried these on whitetails.
Gun has 1:10 twist. l am looking to reduce recoil, or will it be driven too fast for deer hunting, and not perform like the 165's that I have been using.

 

[Larry in SD]

I have used the .308 Caliber 125gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips in both the .30-30 Winchester (@ 2400 FPS) and the .30-30 Ackley Improved (@ 2680 FPS) in T/C Contender Super 14 Handguns with great results. I have shot several Deer with this bullet in Handguns and all have been one shot kills.

However I think if driven to max velocity in a .30-06 Rifle these bullets will not provide much penetration like they do at Handgun Velocities. I recently loaded some of these bullets for a buddies son in a .30-06, but I used a light load of H-4895 to keep both velocity and recoil down. Well my buddies son got his first deer ever with this load. He shot a little high and hit the doe square in the back bone. The bullet did not exit, but rather blew up in the spine, obviously putting the deer down in her tracks.

That is the only experience I have had with the .308 Caliber 125gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips. I think it is a great bullet at Handgun Velocities. Maybe someone with more experience with this bullet will chime in here with more info.

Larry

 

[JD338]

chuckslayer

Hodgdon has Youth Load Data which should be a good start for you.
http://www.hodgdon.com/data/youth/30-06_y.php
Hope this helps.

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

They work great on deer and antelope.

 

[rick smith]

Shot about 50 with that bullet in a 308x1.5 Barnes, always worked very well.Rick.

 

[Sharpsman]

I ain't beliving that anyone....would want to choose what basically is a bullet designed for varmit shooting.....for a whitetail deer bullet??

:shock: :roll:

 

[JD338]

I ain't beliving that anyone....would want to choose what basically is a bullet designed for varmit shooting.....for a whitetail deer bullet??

:shock: :roll:

The 30 cal 125 gr BT is a game bullet, not designed for varmints.
You need to keep impact velocities below 3000 fps.
For hard angle shots, more bullet weight might be more desireable.

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

This is the load I used in my 30-06


Cartridge : .30-06 Spring.
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 81 46.40 2615 1897 30975 7286 89.1 1.327
-18.0 83 47.56 2676 1987 32999 7512 90.3 1.301
-16.0 85 48.72 2737 2080 35152 7732 91.5 1.267
-14.0 87 49.88 2799 2174 37432 7946 92.6 1.233
-12.0 89 51.04 2860 2270 39833 8152 93.6 1.198
-10.0 91 52.20 2921 2368 42373 8350 94.5 1.164
-08.0 93 53.36 2982 2468 45074 8540 95.4 1.132
-06.0 95 54.52 3043 2570 47946 8720 96.2 1.100
-04.0 97 55.68 3104 2674 51002 8889 96.9 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 99 56.84 3164 2779 54254 9048 97.6 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 58.00 3224 2886 57718 9195 98.2 1.013 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 103 59.16 3284 2994 61410 9330 98.7 0.986 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 60.32 3344 3104 65346 9453 99.1 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 107 61.48 3404 3215 69548 9561 99.4 0.935 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 109 62.64 3463 3328 74038 9656 99.7 0.910 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 111 63.80 3521 3442 78840 9736 99.9 0.886 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 58.00 3360 3133 67600 9064 100.0 0.947 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 58.00 3044 2572 48024 8919 92.7 1.099

 

[Sharpsman]

I ain't beliving that anyone....would want to choose what basically is a bullet designed for varmit shooting.....for a whitetail deer bullet??

:shock: :roll:

The 30 cal 125 gr BT is a game bullet, not designed for varmints.
You need to keep impact velocities below 3000 fps.
For hard angle shots, more bullet weight might be more desireable.

JD338

JD338

Can't agree with that!! :shock:

 

[JD338]

I ain't beliving that anyone....would want to choose what basically is a bullet designed for varmit shooting.....for a whitetail deer bullet??

:shock: :roll:

The 30 cal 125 gr BT is a game bullet, not designed for varmints.
You need to keep impact velocities below 3000 fps.
For hard angle shots, more bullet weight might be more desireable.

JD338

JD338

Can't agree with that!! :shock:

In general, a 125 gr bullet is considered a varmint bullet in 30 cal.
If you look at the Nosler offering, varmint bullets are 20 cal, 22 cal,
243 cal 55 gr and 70 gr, 257 cal 85 gr. The BT game bullets, which have a thicker jacket are 243 cal 95 gr, 257 100 gr, and up.

Also consider the comments from some of the others that have actually used the 125 gr BT on deer and goats with good results. I have a buddy who loads the 125 gr BT in a 30-30 for his daughter. She has taken 2 WT deer, one was a doe at around 220 yds and the bullet exit hole was the size of a quarter.

The 125 gr BT works on deer, you just need to keep the impact velocity
under 3000 fps.

JD338