30-06 and Varget QL please.

[Aussie Wanderer]

Hi guys, I am suffering through trying to get good reloads with my 30-06 using 165 class bullets. The barrel is 26 inches long in a varmint contour. Brass is Norma. I have been trying with H4350 and the best I can get is 5 shots around an inch in size. Remington barrel and action is bedded into a hs-precision stock and free floated. I am expecting better and was going to try Varget to see if a different powder might yield better results. So if someone could kindly run a QL map using 165 projectile and 65,000 pressure that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help or advice from those familiar with this cartridge is also welcomed.

 

[DrMike]

Which partricular bullet? Different bullets produce different results.

 

[Aussie Wanderer]

Sorry Mike, absolutely right.

Happy for you to use the 165 ballistic tip. That is the bullet I want to work so I can swap out to an AccuBond when or if the need arises.

 

[wvbuckbuster]

Have you tried or have access to Big Game? It groups well under an inch close to half inch in my Remington 700 with 22-inch barrel getting close to 2900 fps using the Hornady 165gr BTSP.

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon VARGET *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    48.24   2701    2674   46879   7472     98.7    1.316
-09.0   91    48.78   2728    2726   48320   7536     99.0    1.298
-08.0   92    49.31   2754    2778   49805   7598     99.2    1.280
-07.0   93    49.85   2779    2830   51334   7657     99.3    1.263
-06.0   94    50.38   2805    2883   52909   7713     99.5    1.247
-05.0   95    50.92   2831    2936   54531   7767     99.6    1.230
-04.0   96    51.46   2856    2989   56202   7817     99.7    1.214  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   97    51.99   2882    3043   57923   7865     99.8    1.198  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    52.53   2907    3096   59697   7911     99.9    1.183  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    53.06   2932    3150   61526   7953    100.0    1.167  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    53.60   2957    3205   63411   7992    100.0    1.153  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    54.14   2982    3259   65354   8028    100.0    1.138  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    54.67   3007    3313   67357   8062    100.0    1.123  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    55.21   3032    3368   69424   8096    100.0    1.109  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    55.74   3057    3423   71556   8129    100.0    1.095  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  105    56.28   3081    3478   73755   8161    100.0    1.082  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    53.60   3007    3314   68610   7838    100.0    1.117  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    53.60   2896    3073   58236   8095     99.3    1.194  ! Near Maximum !

 

[DrMike]

You'll get a skosh more velocity with the AB, though it is doubtful you can measure the difference.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler Accubond 55602
Useable Case Capaci: 59.818 grain H2O = 3.884 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon VARGET *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    48.24   2707    2685   47328   7460     98.8    1.310
-09.0   91    48.78   2733    2738   48790   7524     99.0    1.293
-08.0   92    49.31   2760    2790   50297   7585     99.2    1.275
-07.0   93    49.85   2785    2843   51848   7643     99.4    1.258
-06.0   94    50.38   2811    2896   53447   7698     99.5    1.241
-05.0   95    50.92   2837    2949   55093   7751     99.6    1.225
-04.0   96    51.46   2863    3002   56790   7801     99.8    1.209  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   97    51.99   2888    3056   58539   7849     99.8    1.193  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    52.53   2914    3110   60341   7893     99.9    1.178  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    53.06   2939    3164   62200   7934    100.0    1.163  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    53.60   2964    3219   64115   7972    100.0    1.148  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    54.14   2989    3273   66091   8008    100.0    1.133  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    54.67   3014    3328   68129   8041    100.0    1.119  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    55.21   3039    3383   70232   8075    100.0    1.104  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    55.74   3063    3438   72401   8107    100.0    1.091  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  106    56.28   3088    3494   74640   8139    100.0    1.077  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    53.60   3014    3328   69379   7818    100.0    1.112  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    53.60   2903    3087   58877   8079     99.3    1.189  ! Near Maximum !