30/06 Spring - 165AB - AR2209 combo

[Waldo]

Hi All,

I have some brass all prepped and ready to run a few loads of the above combo.

ADI (powder manuf) list 53g (2680fps) as starting and 59g (2940fps) as max. I have noticed on the Nosler web page data the lower speeds are listed as more accurate (appreciate this may vary from rifle to rifle) but with 150g it seems to be the faster driven in more accurate.

Anyone out there have an experience with this powder/projectile combo?

Cheers,
Waldo

 

[SJB358]

Is 2209 equivalent to H4350? Just wondering?

 

[Waldo]

Is 2209 equivalent to H4350? Just wondering?

Similar burn rates but not the same powder I believe????

 

[FOTIS]

artridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 60.345 grain H2O = 3.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : ADI AR 2209

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 94 52.20 2471 2033 34748 8679 83.2 1.294
-09.0 95 52.78 2501 2083 35902 8823 83.9 1.277
-08.0 96 53.36 2532 2134 37098 8966 84.7 1.260
-07.0 97 53.94 2562 2187 38338 9108 85.4 1.238
-06.0 99 54.52 2593 2240 39624 9248 86.1 1.220
-05.0 100 55.10 2624 2294 40958 9386 86.8 1.201
-04.0 101 55.68 2655 2349 42330 9522 87.5 1.183
-03.0 102 56.26 2687 2404 43779 9657 88.2 1.164
-02.0 103 56.84 2718 2461 45271 9790 88.8 1.146
-01.0 104 57.42 2750 2519 46821 9920 89.5 1.128
+00.0 105 58.00 2782 2577 48431 10047 90.1 1.111
+01.0 106 58.58 2814 2637 50102 10172 90.7 1.093
+02.0 107 59.16 2846 2697 51844 10295 91.3 1.076
+03.0 108 59.74 2878 2759 53653 10414 91.9 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 109 60.32 2910 2821 55538 10530 92.5 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
+05.0 110 60.90 2943 2884 57497 10643 93.0 1.027 ! Near Maximum !

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 58.00 2876 2754 53005 10332 93.8 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 58.00 2679 2390 44097 9644 85.6 1.161

 

[Waldo]

I just loaded up 10 x 165g accubonds in front of 56g AR2209, just need to wait a week or so for the range to re-open and give them a trot. COAL 3.340 just clears the magazine in the T3, I know function should rule over form but these rounds look seriously cool, if they shoot as good as they look they will be awesome.

Was out pre-season scouting Thursday just gone and spotted a real nice buck still in full velvet and a little growth to go, can't wait.

Cheers,
Waldo

 

[Waldo]

Is 2209 equivalent to H4350? Just wondering?

Similar burn rates but not the same powder I believe????

Correction, I know believe H4350 and AR2209 are the same powder, oops.

 

[SJB358]

Correction, I know believe H4350 and AR2209 are the same powder, oops.

Thank you sir.

 

[Hegland]

I put together some starting to mid-level charges of H4350 with the 165 AB several years ago, and 56.0 gave what I would call acceptable accuracy, a little over an inch. But nothing great. I didn't have a chronograph at the time so I don't have any idea on speed.

I never got around to working up higher than that. However, I do have another box of those bullets lying around and that is on the agenda. Hopefully I can get to it next weekend when the weather is a little more conducive. Started out at -4 F this morning, headed for a high of 4 above. I'll post results when I have them.

 

[Waldo]

I put together some starting to mid-level charges of H4350 with the 165 AB several years ago, and 56.0 gave what I would call acceptable accuracy, a little over an inch. But nothing great. I didn't have a chronograph at the time so I don't have any idea on speed.

I never got around to working up higher than that. However, I do have another box of those bullets lying around and that is on the agenda. Hopefully I can get to it next weekend when the weather is a little more conducive. Started out at -4 F this morning, headed for a high of 4 above. I'll post results when I have them.

Thanks Hegland, from what I have researched on the net the 57g to 57.5g seems to be a bit of a sweet spot for this combo, I stil have some time till the range re-opens so I will load a few at 57g to see if there is any discernable difference in accuracy.

-4F that is veeeeeery cooold, down here if we get to -4C we consider that cold!
Cheers,
Waldo