30-30 Help

spires5d · Jan 15, 2009

My sons have been after me to load them up some of Hornady's 160 grain FTX now that they are on the market to reload. I have tried Hornady and IMR for onfo on IMR powders and grains and I have had no success. My question is,what IMR powders and what grains of each can I use to load the 160GR.FTX? I would appreciate the help if aanyone knows.

Noslers Rock!

bullet · Jan 15, 2009

IMR3031, H322 and Varget.

IMR3031 start at 27grs work up half grain at a time.

H322 start at 27grs work up half grain at a time.

Varget start at 30grs work up half grain at a time.

JD338 · Jan 15, 2009

IMR3031 is a good powder to start with.

JD338

spires5d · Jan 16, 2009

Thanks for the help fellows.

Spires5d

BK · Jan 17, 2009

Always loaded IMR3031 in .30-30 with 150s. Never really tested them, but now that I actually own an M94 (with a receiver sight, no less, thanks cuz!) I guess I'll need to. Before it was just minimum load to make noise in other's guns.

FOTIS · Jan 17, 2009

Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 160 gr
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch or 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch or 508.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 38000 psi, or 262 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

78 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
SF-033 fl 95.0 25.3 1.64 2100 99.7 38000 4903 1.260 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 90.3 24.2 1.57 2082 97.7 38000 4981 1.259 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 101.9 29.0 1.88 2060 88.1 38000 5253 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 104.1 26.7 1.73 2055 92.8 38000 5044 1.269 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 105.0 28.2 1.83 2055 91.1 36699 5166 1.282 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 98.4 27.6 1.79 2053 89.5 38000 5133 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 95.8 23.6 1.53 2050 97.7 38000 4811 1.281 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 93.1 26.5 1.72 2047 92.5 38000 5001 1.268 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 92.4 24.9 1.61 2046 94.0 38000 4914 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 98.3 24.9 1.61 2046 94.0 38000 4914 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 92.5 25.8 1.67 2046 92.6 38000 4969 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 92.5 25.8 1.67 2045 92.6 38000 4962 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 93.6 25.3 1.64 2045 93.9 38000 4916 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 98.3 27.6 1.79 2042 89.3 38000 5057 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 96.8 27.1 1.75 2041 90.6 38000 5003 1.287 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 98.3 24.8 1.61 2039 96.8 38000 4769 1.287 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 105.0 25.6 1.66 2037 93.7 34848 5133 1.302
Accurate 2460 97.9 27.4 1.77 2033 90.5 38000 4941 1.289 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 98.7 27.0 1.75 2033 88.9 38000 4972 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 99.5 27.1 1.75 2032 88.7 38000 4974 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 101.9 25.2 1.64 2028 92.7 38000 4924 1.310 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 98.4 25.8 1.67 2026 89.0 38000 4914 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 105.0 27.7 1.79 2024 91.7 36652 5025 1.289 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 99.8 26.6 1.72 2024 89.1 38000 4949 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 97.8 26.0 1.68 2023 94.0 38000 4774 1.274 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 103.1 27.8 1.80 2019 86.1 38000 4939 1.276 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 95.6 26.7 1.73 2018 90.3 38000 4819 1.289 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 92.7 21.7 1.40 2005 98.4 38000 4377 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 104.0 24.8 1.61 2003 96.1 38000 4507 1.278 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 102.4 26.1 1.69 2001 94.0 38000 4654 1.295 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 91.6 21.8 1.41 2001 100.0 38000 4113 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 105.0 27.4 1.77 2000 84.2 35592 4990 1.308
Alliant Reloder-15 105.0 27.4 1.77 2000 84.2 35592 4990 1.308
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 105.0 27.4 1.77 2000 84.2 35592 4990 1.308
Somchem S341 101.5 28.5 1.84 1999 85.4 38000 4792 1.280 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 97.4 23.7 1.54 1998 97.3 38000 4472 1.291 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 105.0 26.5 1.72 1998 86.5 37267 4888 1.284 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 103.2 28.7 1.86 1997 82.2 38000 4846 1.282 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 105.0 25.9 1.68 1992 94.1 30618 5166 1.387
Rottweil R902 105.0 26.4 1.71 1991 88.3 36581 4817 1.317 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 105.0 27.4 1.77 1990 84.7 34777 4987 1.320
ADI AR 2210 92.0 24.8 1.61 1989 90.2 38000 4645 1.292 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 92.4 23.6 1.53 1987 96.9 38000 4421 1.297 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 97.3 25.0 1.62 1978 89.8 38000 4573 1.297 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 105.0 29.2 1.89 1963 77.8 35196 4873 1.322
Hodgdon H4895 105.0 26.5 1.72 1959 88.1 34814 4719 1.323
IMR 4320 105.0 26.9 1.74 1956 83.5 35986 4686 1.310 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 99.0 25.5 1.65 1954 87.2 38000 4459 1.301 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 105.0 26.6 1.72 1954 83.6 35957 4650 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 105.0 26.5 1.72 1947 83.4 35589 4629 1.320
ADI AR 2206H 97.8 25.5 1.65 1945 86.8 38000 4401 1.303 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 105.0 28.0 1.81 1938 80.3 33556 4767 1.348
SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.0 28.3 1.83 1933 81.5 33177 4837 1.350
Norma 203 old 105.0 27.7 1.79 1923 83.9 30502 4893 1.387
IMR 4064 105.0 25.9 1.68 1922 83.2 33977 4529 1.346
Somchem S355 105.0 26.8 1.74 1894 82.9 30214 4683 1.401
IMR 4007 SSC 105.0 27.8 1.80 1883 75.2 33921 4388 1.365
Vihtavuori N135 105.0 24.8 1.61 1876 91.2 28600 4523 1.424
Vihtavuori N140 105.0 26.3 1.70 1870 84.3 31322 4381 1.391
Ramshot BigGame 105.0 27.4 1.77 1868 79.4 30144 4625 1.406
Winchester 760 105.0 29.0 1.88 1858 72.0 31351 4532 1.394
Accurate 4064 105.0 25.6 1.66 1831 86.5 24605 4717 1.511
Accurate 2700 105.0 28.3 1.83 1830 74.2 33487 4046 1.388
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 28.0 1.81 1827 75.3 28086 4574 1.446
Rottweil R907 105.0 26.9 1.74 1816 73.2 30526 4186 1.425
Rottweil R903 105.0 26.3 1.70 1803 79.7 25905 4466 1.486

hubcap · Jan 17, 2009

Got a little dope on IMR-3031 with the 150 grain sierra bullet. 34 grains gave 2320 fps. on the chrony. This was in a marlin 336, win. brass and cci-200 primers. 34 grs. is definitly a max load in my guns. 3031 gave real good accuracy and nice velocity. I clocked 8ea. factory remington loads at a high of 2281 for one round and 4ea. at a low of 2235. So IMR-3031 is a winner in my book. But, IMR-4064 has proven a little better in the accuracy department with 170 grain bullets and up to a max. of 34 grains in both of my marlin-336,s. I settled on 33.0 grains for a velocity of 2100 fps and real good accuracy. No pressure signs at all with the 33 grain load. 34 grains gave slightly craterd primers. Don,t know for sure but it is likely the 160 hornady bullet would like either one of the IMR powders. That 160 hornady looks real interesting. I,m going to cook up a load myself as soon as I can find them in the stores out west. I,m thinking along the lines of the same overall length that hornady uses and probably 31 grains of 4064 on hornady brass to start. My backup plan is to try some H4895. We shall see. :idea: :idea: :idea: