I started working with an Accumark in 300 Weatherby. 165 gr Weatherby factory ammo would do no better than 1.5" for 3 shots. Factory ammo with the 130 Barnes TTSX shot well under an inch. There is not much data for the 130 gr in a 300 Weatherby. Anybody got any pet loads for the Barnes 130? How does it stack up to the heavier bullets like the 150 AccuBond. I want a high velocity load to work with this deer season and then go to a heavier 180 plus grain bullet like a 200 AccuBond later and make comparisons on performance on deer size game at moderate ranges. Under 400 yards.
300 Weatherby
- Thread starter doeroller
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My brother has had great success with the 168gr TTSX in his 300wby. Loaded with imr 7828 was under 3/4". I tend to like a heavier bullet so I wouldnt recommend the 130gr in such a magnum caliber. Good luck though. The 180 or 200gr AccuBond would be a hammer in your rifle.
Yeah, I would think the 130gr TTSX would be a good deer bullet in the 300 WBY, I am not sure if it would be any better than a 180 AccuBond/PT-200Accubond/PT like bullet though. You will get blistering speeds out of the 130 and those would probably work great on deer and perhaps even larger stuff, but I would run the numbers and see where the longer bullets with more BC start to overtake the 130gr TTSX. Nothing wrong with them, and if you are shooting out to 300 yards, the 130 will likely have less recoil and shoot flat as a string.
I don't have any load data for the 130gr in a WBY, but I would imagine if you looked at Hodgdon you would find something that would work for you. Scotty
I don't have any load data for the 130gr in a WBY, but I would imagine if you looked at Hodgdon you would find something that would work for you. Scotty
Doeroller,
Where are you located? I have a couple of 300 Bees that I load for. They like hot loads, but I don't like the TSX bullets at all in any of my WBYs. But, until the E-Tip, here in Ca, we are somewhat stuck....
I use a 180 Partition and 180 AB for my 300. Muzzle is around 3150 fps, and the bullet has both the BC and the knockdown power for a 400 or 500 yard shot. I have not gotten the 180 gr TSX to group better than 3 inches for any of my bees.
Check the front screw on the WBY, Should be at 35 inch pounds. Most WBY Barrels require pressure in the front to shoot well. You might want to check out their web site as well, but 1.5" is the guarantee.
Last question, are you letting the barrel get cold again after firing each shot?
hardpan
Where are you located? I have a couple of 300 Bees that I load for. They like hot loads, but I don't like the TSX bullets at all in any of my WBYs. But, until the E-Tip, here in Ca, we are somewhat stuck....
I use a 180 Partition and 180 AB for my 300. Muzzle is around 3150 fps, and the bullet has both the BC and the knockdown power for a 400 or 500 yard shot. I have not gotten the 180 gr TSX to group better than 3 inches for any of my bees.
Check the front screw on the WBY, Should be at 35 inch pounds. Most WBY Barrels require pressure in the front to shoot well. You might want to check out their web site as well, but 1.5" is the guarantee.
Last question, are you letting the barrel get cold again after firing each shot?
hardpan
Desert Fox
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130 is way too light for the 300 Bee in my opinion. 165 is the lightest I would go. For best all around load, nothing beats the 180 grainer.
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I'm with Desert Fox. The 300 'bee and 180gr bullets are like oreos and milk - made for each other.
- Thread starter
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I am from Mississippi along the Big Black River corridor, arguably the best place in the state for trophy whitetail deer. I am going to try torqueing the action screws properly to see if the gun will shoot the heavier bullets better. Right now anything over 400 yds will be a poke and a hope except with the 130 Barnes TTSX bullets in factory guise.
I just ran the numbers to get an idea of trajectory out to 500 yards and really, the 180gr and 130gr bullets are almost identical out to 500 yards. Granted the 180gr bullet is still holding 2000Ftlbs at 500 and the 130 is at 1300, but for deer, that is still plenty to 500. So, for your purposes, I can't see anything the 130gr wouldn't do for you. I would rather have a heavier bullet for wind bucking abilities, but again, that isn't going to matter too much unless you were shooting way out there. Good luck with your rifle, for deer, I would shoot whatever shoots best and makes you feel confident in your set up. Scotty
130gr Barnes TTSX
300 Weatherby Magnum 130 gr., .350 B.C.
Range (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3450 3298 3152 2874 2612 2366 2132
Energy (ft.-lb.) 3436 3140 2868 2384 1970 1615 1312
Trajectory (300 yd. zero) -1.5 1.0 2.7 3.5 0.0 -8.5 -23.3
180gr Nosler 180gr Ballistic Tip
300 Weatherby Magnum 180 gr., .507 B.C. www.hornady.com
Range (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3150 3052 2956 2771 2593 2421 2257
Energy (ft.-lb.) 3966 3723 3492 3068 2686 2343 2036
Trajectory (300 yd. zero) -1.5 1.3 3.1 3.8 0.0 -9.0 -23.9
130gr Barnes TTSX
300 Weatherby Magnum 130 gr., .350 B.C.
Range (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3450 3298 3152 2874 2612 2366 2132
Energy (ft.-lb.) 3436 3140 2868 2384 1970 1615 1312
Trajectory (300 yd. zero) -1.5 1.0 2.7 3.5 0.0 -8.5 -23.3
180gr Nosler 180gr Ballistic Tip
300 Weatherby Magnum 180 gr., .507 B.C. www.hornady.com
Range (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3150 3052 2956 2771 2593 2421 2257
Energy (ft.-lb.) 3966 3723 3492 3068 2686 2343 2036
Trajectory (300 yd. zero) -1.5 1.3 3.1 3.8 0.0 -9.0 -23.9
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The 130 TSX would rock in any Bee. They thrive on speed and I would use it on antelope to moose without a second thought! When talking about monolithics weight means very little.
My 30-378 shoots the 168 TTSX at 3575 fps and .6" at 100 yards.
Cartridge : .300 Weath. Mag.
Bullet : .308, 130, Barnes 'TSX'BT 30838
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.560 inch or 90.42 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP 102.8 91.6 5.94 3697 99.5 64000 13181 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 104.6 91.3 5.92 3685 97.1 64000 13391 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 106.7 97.6 6.32 3674 98.0 64000 13107 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 107.0 97.5 6.32 3673 98.1 64000 13078 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 107.1 97.6 6.33 3673 98.0 64000 13094 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 109.2 90.6 5.87 3672 97.5 64000 12997 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 103.3 90.6 5.87 3672 97.5 64000 12997 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 93.4 6.05 3669 100.0 62112 12677 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 104.7 95.0 6.16 3661 95.7 64000 13356 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 104.9 90.5 5.87 3660 98.6 64000 12945 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 104.9 90.5 5.87 3660 98.6 64000 12945 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 104.9 90.5 5.87 3660 98.6 64000 12945 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 107.7 90.9 5.89 3657 98.5 64000 12948 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 104.3 90.0 5.83 3655 97.4 64000 12863 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 107.9 95.6 6.20 3634 97.7 64000 12628 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 97.1 82.4 5.34 3623 99.9 64000 11963 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 101.3 86.0 5.57 3622 98.4 64000 12326 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 89.9 80.5 5.21 3619 100.0 64000 11483 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 106.1 89.9 5.83 3618 97.0 64000 12577 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 91.9 83.0 5.38 3616 99.4 64000 12146 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 101.7 86.9 5.63 3615 98.5 64000 12380 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 97.3 85.8 5.56 3614 99.8 64000 12073 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 98.9 84.0 5.44 3609 100.0 64000 11252 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 99.6 81.5 5.28 3609 99.6 64000 11937 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 102.5 87.5 5.67 3606 98.4 64000 12282 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 96.9 81.8 5.30 3598 100.0 64000 11636 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 96.9 81.9 5.30 3598 100.0 64000 11633 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 94.1 82.1 5.32 3596 100.0 64000 11763 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 89.8 81.6 5.29 3592 99.4 64000 11980 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 99.7 85.1 5.52 3590 98.2 64000 12081 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 99.7 85.1 5.52 3590 98.2 64000 12081 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 96.6 85.1 5.52 3590 98.2 64000 12081 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 100.3 81.9 5.31 3590 100.0 64000 11599 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 90.5 79.8 5.17 3579 100.0 64000 11242 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 102.9 88.8 5.75 3579 96.7 64000 12120 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 107.0 88.8 5.75 3579 96.7 64000 12120 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 90.7 79.9 5.18 3578 100.0 64000 11225 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 89.6 74.0 4.80 3577 100.0 64000 10703 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 101.6 83.0 5.38 3573 100.0 64000 11371 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 101.8 87.9 5.69 3569 99.1 64000 11851 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 110.0 93.9 6.09 3569 96.9 57301 13096 1.108
Raufoss RA11 88.5 75.5 4.90 3568 100.0 64000 11177 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 88.5 75.5 4.90 3568 100.0 64000 11177 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 88.5 75.5 4.90 3568 100.0 64000 11177 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 99.0 6.42 3565 91.1 55932 13842 1.113
Norma 203B 88.9 75.9 4.92 3562 100.0 64000 11074 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 100.6 84.7 5.49 3555 97.4 64000 11775 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 89.7 78.3 5.07 3555 100.0 64000 11297 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0701 96.7 81.7 5.29 3552 99.5 64000 11556 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 100.1 90.1 5.84 3552 98.3 64000 11703 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 102.9 82.1 5.32 3552 100.0 64000 10736 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 90.5 76.0 4.92 3549 100.0 64000 10784 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 86.7 78.8 5.11 3548 100.0 64000 11170 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 107.1 90.4 5.86 3547 98.9 64000 11533 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 83.4 77.7 5.04 3545 100.0 64000 10868 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 81.2 74.6 4.83 3543 100.0 64000 10568 1.056 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 89.8 77.5 5.02 3541 100.0 64000 10856 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 86.5 76.3 4.94 3538 100.0 64000 10809 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 91.9 77.6 5.03 3536 100.0 64000 10780 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 94.7 79.3 5.14 3534 99.1 64000 11400 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 92.2 77.0 4.99 3534 100.0 64000 10803 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 91.7 79.4 5.14 3534 99.1 64000 11392 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 91.2 75.6 4.90 3532 100.0 64000 10804 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 91.5 75.6 4.90 3532 100.0 64000 10804 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0651 95.7 79.9 5.18 3530 99.9 64000 11172 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 107.2 87.8 5.69 3529 97.3 64000 11518 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 110.0 88.8 5.75 3525 99.7 62377 11488 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 92.0 74.2 4.81 3524 100.0 64000 10631 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 83.4 74.3 4.81 3524 100.0 64000 10534 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 82.9 71.1 4.61 3522 100.0 64000 10467 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 81.1 74.2 4.80 3522 100.0 64000 10514 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 87.7 70.0 4.54 3516 100.0 64000 10100 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 84.8 77.9 5.05 3516 100.0 64000 10529 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 81.7 75.1 4.87 3516 100.0 64000 10526 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0621 89.5 74.4 4.82 3511 100.0 64000 10439 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 91.0 75.2 4.87 3509 100.0 64000 10222 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 85.2 75.0 4.86 3505 100.0 64000 10253 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 83.3 72.7 4.71 3504 100.0 64000 10418 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 92.9 6.02 3499 96.1 56867 12266 1.094
SNPE Vectan SP 10 77.7 70.9 4.59 3495 100.0 64000 10089 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 88.7 73.0 4.73 3494 100.0 64000 10294 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 77.6 71.0 4.60 3493 100.0 64000 10074 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 93.3 74.5 4.83 3492 100.0 64000 10209 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 77.9 72.6 4.70 3492 100.0 64000 10091 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 79.4 72.7 4.71 3491 100.0 64000 10174 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 86.2 72.4 4.69 3488 100.0 64000 10068 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0601 87.1 72.3 4.69 3487 100.0 64000 10223 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 77.7 68.5 4.44 3486 100.0 64000 9870 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 82.7 68.5 4.44 3486 100.0 64000 9870 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 97.2 78.3 5.07 3482 100.0 64000 10152 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 88.4 76.3 4.94 3482 100.0 64000 10164 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 93.9 77.0 4.99 3482 100.0 64000 10129 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 80.4 73.6 4.77 3479 100.0 64000 10061 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 79.3 69.9 4.53 3478 100.0 64000 9988 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 76.2 69.7 4.51 3477 100.0 64000 9883 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0731 79.6 72.4 4.69 3475 100.0 64000 10001 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 92.8 81.8 5.30 3475 99.0 64000 10750 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 79.3 72.5 4.70 3472 100.0 64000 9949 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 85.2 69.1 4.48 3471 100.0 64000 9970 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 86.5 73.1 4.74 3471 100.0 64000 10049 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 84.5 71.0 4.60 3470 100.0 64000 9930 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 77.8 70.7 4.58 3469 100.0 64000 9912 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0733 79.3 72.1 4.67 3469 100.0 64000 9911 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 86.8 70.1 4.54 3467 100.0 64000 9869 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 85.8 73.3 4.75 3466 100.0 64000 10017 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 77.3 67.0 4.34 3466 100.0 64000 9751 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 74.9 65.6 4.25 3460 100.0 64000 9566 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0832 81.0 72.9 4.72 3455 100.0 64000 9534 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 82.7 72.0 4.66 3446 100.0 64000 9596 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 93.5 72.4 4.69 3442 100.0 64000 9466 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 94.4 6.12 3432 97.8 49821 12792 1.166
Alliant Reloder-10x 80.5 64.9 4.20 3428 100.0 64000 9358 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 79.0 63.3 4.10 3422 100.0 64000 9164 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680 69.0 63.4 4.11 3419 100.0 64000 9214 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 70.9 56.6 3.67 3412 100.0 64000 9209 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 81.7 67.5 4.38 3412 100.0 64000 9233 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 86.8 72.5 4.70 3412 100.0 64000 9365 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 72.9 64.4 4.17 3397 100.0 64000 9124 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 72.9 64.4 4.17 3397 100.0 64000 9124 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
SF-033 fl 76.7 66.9 4.33 3395 100.0 64000 9049 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 88.5 69.1 4.48 3391 100.0 64000 8980 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 80.9 61.9 4.01 3391 100.0 64000 8855 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218 110.0 100.0 6.48 3379 86.9 50441 13194 1.160
Alliant Reloder- 7 76.5 63.2 4.09 3378 100.0 64000 8904 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D1001 110.0 101.1 6.55 3377 85.9 58079 11357 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 83.7 66.8 4.33 3377 100.0 64000 8903 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 79.9 66.8 4.33 3374 100.0 64000 8891 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 296 60.5 55.5 3.60 3365 100.0 64000 8811 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207 76.4 61.0 3.95 3358 100.0 64000 8735 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 100.0 6.48 3339 82.6 53252 11763 1.141
IMR 4227 74.0 57.9 3.75 3332 100.0 64000 8401 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 74.0 57.9 3.75 3331 100.0 64000 8404 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 67.2 57.3 3.72 3316 100.0 64000 8340 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 92.9 6.02 3300 88.1 51958 11408 1.180
Vihtavuori N120 78.8 61.4 3.98 3299 100.0 64000 8210 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0631 61.7 54.9 3.56 3295 100.0 64000 8133 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 62.5 57.2 3.71 3281 100.0 64000 8234 1.071 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 110.0 97.0 6.28 3278 88.9 44700 12527 1.225
Lovex-S0531 74.9 57.3 3.72 3275 100.0 64000 8054 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S265 73.8 57.9 3.75 3240 100.0 64000 7852 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 60.7 53.9 3.49 3221 100.0 64000 7815 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 60.5 49.0 3.18 3221 100.0 64000 7688 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2205 71.7 58.2 3.77 3216 100.0 64000 7723 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 61.3 54.0 3.50 3208 100.0 64000 7564 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110 71.1 51.4 3.33 3188 100.0 64000 7477 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0401 65.9 50.2 3.25 3185 100.0 64000 7428 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R910 64.0 50.5 3.27 3185 100.0 64000 7428 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 512 63.1 51.5 3.34 3182 100.0 64000 7459 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 59.0 51.4 3.33 3181 100.0 64000 7457 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.9 54.5 49.8 3.23 3151 100.0 64000 7251 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 67.0 46.6 3.02 3132 100.0 64000 7229 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 100.0 6.48 3105 78.2 43386 10878 1.253
Accurate No.7 50.1 46.1 2.99 3102 100.0 64000 6980 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 95.3 6.18 3102 73.8 43324 10825 1.249
Alliant POWER PISTOL 58.3 39.5 2.56 3084 100.0 64000 7061 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0051 59.2 37.4 2.42 3078 100.0 64000 7026 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R123 54.9 46.8 3.03 3059 100.0 64000 6856 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.5 44.2 42.7 2.77 3049 100.0 64000 6768 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 96.0 6.22 3043 82.6 39495 10780 1.293
Vihtavuori 3N38 64.1 44.6 2.89 3037 100.0 64000 6551 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0361 46.5 41.0 2.65 3037 100.0 64000 6700 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S221 50.2 44.7 2.90 3034 100.0 64000 6671 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N105 64.0 42.8 2.77 3003 100.0 64000 6358 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 100 72.3 42.6 2.76 2990 100.0 64000 6382 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 101.1 6.55 2982 77.9 37924 10650 1.322
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 96.0 6.22 2964 79.2 37252 10403 1.321
Alliant BULLSEYE 61.4 34.7 2.25 2940 100.0 64000 6302 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P806 58.0 49.5 3.21 2939 100.0 64000 6361 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700 110.0 96.2 6.23 2933 79.2 36556 10287 1.336
My 30-378 shoots the 168 TTSX at 3575 fps and .6" at 100 yards.
Cartridge : .300 Weath. Mag.
Bullet : .308, 130, Barnes 'TSX'BT 30838
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.560 inch or 90.42 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP 102.8 91.6 5.94 3697 99.5 64000 13181 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 104.6 91.3 5.92 3685 97.1 64000 13391 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 106.7 97.6 6.32 3674 98.0 64000 13107 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 107.0 97.5 6.32 3673 98.1 64000 13078 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 107.1 97.6 6.33 3673 98.0 64000 13094 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 109.2 90.6 5.87 3672 97.5 64000 12997 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 103.3 90.6 5.87 3672 97.5 64000 12997 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 93.4 6.05 3669 100.0 62112 12677 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 104.7 95.0 6.16 3661 95.7 64000 13356 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 104.9 90.5 5.87 3660 98.6 64000 12945 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 104.9 90.5 5.87 3660 98.6 64000 12945 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 104.9 90.5 5.87 3660 98.6 64000 12945 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 107.7 90.9 5.89 3657 98.5 64000 12948 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 104.3 90.0 5.83 3655 97.4 64000 12863 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 107.9 95.6 6.20 3634 97.7 64000 12628 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 97.1 82.4 5.34 3623 99.9 64000 11963 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 101.3 86.0 5.57 3622 98.4 64000 12326 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 89.9 80.5 5.21 3619 100.0 64000 11483 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 106.1 89.9 5.83 3618 97.0 64000 12577 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 91.9 83.0 5.38 3616 99.4 64000 12146 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 101.7 86.9 5.63 3615 98.5 64000 12380 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 97.3 85.8 5.56 3614 99.8 64000 12073 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 98.9 84.0 5.44 3609 100.0 64000 11252 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 99.6 81.5 5.28 3609 99.6 64000 11937 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 102.5 87.5 5.67 3606 98.4 64000 12282 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 96.9 81.8 5.30 3598 100.0 64000 11636 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 96.9 81.9 5.30 3598 100.0 64000 11633 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 94.1 82.1 5.32 3596 100.0 64000 11763 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 89.8 81.6 5.29 3592 99.4 64000 11980 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 99.7 85.1 5.52 3590 98.2 64000 12081 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 99.7 85.1 5.52 3590 98.2 64000 12081 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 96.6 85.1 5.52 3590 98.2 64000 12081 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 100.3 81.9 5.31 3590 100.0 64000 11599 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 90.5 79.8 5.17 3579 100.0 64000 11242 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 102.9 88.8 5.75 3579 96.7 64000 12120 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 107.0 88.8 5.75 3579 96.7 64000 12120 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 90.7 79.9 5.18 3578 100.0 64000 11225 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 89.6 74.0 4.80 3577 100.0 64000 10703 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 101.6 83.0 5.38 3573 100.0 64000 11371 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 101.8 87.9 5.69 3569 99.1 64000 11851 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 110.0 93.9 6.09 3569 96.9 57301 13096 1.108
Raufoss RA11 88.5 75.5 4.90 3568 100.0 64000 11177 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 88.5 75.5 4.90 3568 100.0 64000 11177 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 88.5 75.5 4.90 3568 100.0 64000 11177 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 99.0 6.42 3565 91.1 55932 13842 1.113
Norma 203B 88.9 75.9 4.92 3562 100.0 64000 11074 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 100.6 84.7 5.49 3555 97.4 64000 11775 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 89.7 78.3 5.07 3555 100.0 64000 11297 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0701 96.7 81.7 5.29 3552 99.5 64000 11556 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 100.1 90.1 5.84 3552 98.3 64000 11703 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 102.9 82.1 5.32 3552 100.0 64000 10736 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 90.5 76.0 4.92 3549 100.0 64000 10784 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 86.7 78.8 5.11 3548 100.0 64000 11170 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 107.1 90.4 5.86 3547 98.9 64000 11533 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 83.4 77.7 5.04 3545 100.0 64000 10868 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 81.2 74.6 4.83 3543 100.0 64000 10568 1.056 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 89.8 77.5 5.02 3541 100.0 64000 10856 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 86.5 76.3 4.94 3538 100.0 64000 10809 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 91.9 77.6 5.03 3536 100.0 64000 10780 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 94.7 79.3 5.14 3534 99.1 64000 11400 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 92.2 77.0 4.99 3534 100.0 64000 10803 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 91.7 79.4 5.14 3534 99.1 64000 11392 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 91.2 75.6 4.90 3532 100.0 64000 10804 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 91.5 75.6 4.90 3532 100.0 64000 10804 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0651 95.7 79.9 5.18 3530 99.9 64000 11172 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 107.2 87.8 5.69 3529 97.3 64000 11518 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 110.0 88.8 5.75 3525 99.7 62377 11488 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 92.0 74.2 4.81 3524 100.0 64000 10631 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 83.4 74.3 4.81 3524 100.0 64000 10534 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 82.9 71.1 4.61 3522 100.0 64000 10467 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 81.1 74.2 4.80 3522 100.0 64000 10514 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 87.7 70.0 4.54 3516 100.0 64000 10100 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 84.8 77.9 5.05 3516 100.0 64000 10529 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 81.7 75.1 4.87 3516 100.0 64000 10526 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0621 89.5 74.4 4.82 3511 100.0 64000 10439 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 91.0 75.2 4.87 3509 100.0 64000 10222 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 85.2 75.0 4.86 3505 100.0 64000 10253 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 83.3 72.7 4.71 3504 100.0 64000 10418 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 92.9 6.02 3499 96.1 56867 12266 1.094
SNPE Vectan SP 10 77.7 70.9 4.59 3495 100.0 64000 10089 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 88.7 73.0 4.73 3494 100.0 64000 10294 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 77.6 71.0 4.60 3493 100.0 64000 10074 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 93.3 74.5 4.83 3492 100.0 64000 10209 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 77.9 72.6 4.70 3492 100.0 64000 10091 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 79.4 72.7 4.71 3491 100.0 64000 10174 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 86.2 72.4 4.69 3488 100.0 64000 10068 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0601 87.1 72.3 4.69 3487 100.0 64000 10223 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 77.7 68.5 4.44 3486 100.0 64000 9870 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 82.7 68.5 4.44 3486 100.0 64000 9870 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 97.2 78.3 5.07 3482 100.0 64000 10152 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 88.4 76.3 4.94 3482 100.0 64000 10164 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 93.9 77.0 4.99 3482 100.0 64000 10129 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 80.4 73.6 4.77 3479 100.0 64000 10061 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 79.3 69.9 4.53 3478 100.0 64000 9988 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 76.2 69.7 4.51 3477 100.0 64000 9883 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0731 79.6 72.4 4.69 3475 100.0 64000 10001 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 92.8 81.8 5.30 3475 99.0 64000 10750 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 79.3 72.5 4.70 3472 100.0 64000 9949 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 85.2 69.1 4.48 3471 100.0 64000 9970 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 86.5 73.1 4.74 3471 100.0 64000 10049 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 84.5 71.0 4.60 3470 100.0 64000 9930 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 77.8 70.7 4.58 3469 100.0 64000 9912 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0733 79.3 72.1 4.67 3469 100.0 64000 9911 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 86.8 70.1 4.54 3467 100.0 64000 9869 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 85.8 73.3 4.75 3466 100.0 64000 10017 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 77.3 67.0 4.34 3466 100.0 64000 9751 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 74.9 65.6 4.25 3460 100.0 64000 9566 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0832 81.0 72.9 4.72 3455 100.0 64000 9534 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 82.7 72.0 4.66 3446 100.0 64000 9596 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 93.5 72.4 4.69 3442 100.0 64000 9466 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 94.4 6.12 3432 97.8 49821 12792 1.166
Alliant Reloder-10x 80.5 64.9 4.20 3428 100.0 64000 9358 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 79.0 63.3 4.10 3422 100.0 64000 9164 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680 69.0 63.4 4.11 3419 100.0 64000 9214 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 70.9 56.6 3.67 3412 100.0 64000 9209 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 81.7 67.5 4.38 3412 100.0 64000 9233 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 86.8 72.5 4.70 3412 100.0 64000 9365 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 72.9 64.4 4.17 3397 100.0 64000 9124 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 72.9 64.4 4.17 3397 100.0 64000 9124 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
SF-033 fl 76.7 66.9 4.33 3395 100.0 64000 9049 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 88.5 69.1 4.48 3391 100.0 64000 8980 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 80.9 61.9 4.01 3391 100.0 64000 8855 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218 110.0 100.0 6.48 3379 86.9 50441 13194 1.160
Alliant Reloder- 7 76.5 63.2 4.09 3378 100.0 64000 8904 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D1001 110.0 101.1 6.55 3377 85.9 58079 11357 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 83.7 66.8 4.33 3377 100.0 64000 8903 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 79.9 66.8 4.33 3374 100.0 64000 8891 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 296 60.5 55.5 3.60 3365 100.0 64000 8811 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207 76.4 61.0 3.95 3358 100.0 64000 8735 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 100.0 6.48 3339 82.6 53252 11763 1.141
IMR 4227 74.0 57.9 3.75 3332 100.0 64000 8401 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 74.0 57.9 3.75 3331 100.0 64000 8404 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 67.2 57.3 3.72 3316 100.0 64000 8340 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 92.9 6.02 3300 88.1 51958 11408 1.180
Vihtavuori N120 78.8 61.4 3.98 3299 100.0 64000 8210 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0631 61.7 54.9 3.56 3295 100.0 64000 8133 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 62.5 57.2 3.71 3281 100.0 64000 8234 1.071 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 110.0 97.0 6.28 3278 88.9 44700 12527 1.225
Lovex-S0531 74.9 57.3 3.72 3275 100.0 64000 8054 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S265 73.8 57.9 3.75 3240 100.0 64000 7852 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 60.7 53.9 3.49 3221 100.0 64000 7815 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 60.5 49.0 3.18 3221 100.0 64000 7688 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2205 71.7 58.2 3.77 3216 100.0 64000 7723 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 61.3 54.0 3.50 3208 100.0 64000 7564 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110 71.1 51.4 3.33 3188 100.0 64000 7477 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0401 65.9 50.2 3.25 3185 100.0 64000 7428 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R910 64.0 50.5 3.27 3185 100.0 64000 7428 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 512 63.1 51.5 3.34 3182 100.0 64000 7459 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 59.0 51.4 3.33 3181 100.0 64000 7457 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.9 54.5 49.8 3.23 3151 100.0 64000 7251 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 67.0 46.6 3.02 3132 100.0 64000 7229 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 100.0 6.48 3105 78.2 43386 10878 1.253
Accurate No.7 50.1 46.1 2.99 3102 100.0 64000 6980 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 95.3 6.18 3102 73.8 43324 10825 1.249
Alliant POWER PISTOL 58.3 39.5 2.56 3084 100.0 64000 7061 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0051 59.2 37.4 2.42 3078 100.0 64000 7026 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R123 54.9 46.8 3.03 3059 100.0 64000 6856 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.5 44.2 42.7 2.77 3049 100.0 64000 6768 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 96.0 6.22 3043 82.6 39495 10780 1.293
Vihtavuori 3N38 64.1 44.6 2.89 3037 100.0 64000 6551 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0361 46.5 41.0 2.65 3037 100.0 64000 6700 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S221 50.2 44.7 2.90 3034 100.0 64000 6671 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N105 64.0 42.8 2.77 3003 100.0 64000 6358 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 100 72.3 42.6 2.76 2990 100.0 64000 6382 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 101.1 6.55 2982 77.9 37924 10650 1.322
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 96.0 6.22 2964 79.2 37252 10403 1.321
Alliant BULLSEYE 61.4 34.7 2.25 2940 100.0 64000 6302 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P806 58.0 49.5 3.21 2939 100.0 64000 6361 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700 110.0 96.2 6.23 2933 79.2 36556 10287 1.336
Well, at 500 yds, I would worry a lot more about wind drift than drop. My load is down 33 inches at 500, even a light wind at 10 mph might move the bullet over a foot, turning a killing shot into a gut shot or missing in front of the deer.
For the 130 gr tsx with a BC of 0.340, and a velocity of 3600, wind drift could be over 19 inches! Not going to happen on any hunt that I guide or shot that I take. Even at 400 yds, wind drift can be a foot with only a 10 mph wind. Since we hunt often in 30 mph wind, I don't want to shoot a low BC bullet. BTW, I would like to see a shot inside of 300 yds.
My advice would be to work out a load at 180 grs with an AB, before shooting any leadfree bullet.
Hardpan.
For the 130 gr tsx with a BC of 0.340, and a velocity of 3600, wind drift could be over 19 inches! Not going to happen on any hunt that I guide or shot that I take. Even at 400 yds, wind drift can be a foot with only a 10 mph wind. Since we hunt often in 30 mph wind, I don't want to shoot a low BC bullet. BTW, I would like to see a shot inside of 300 yds.
My advice would be to work out a load at 180 grs with an AB, before shooting any leadfree bullet.
Hardpan.
