300 WSM Reloader 17

[elkeater2]

"I am trying to acheive 3100 fps with this bullet and be accurate. Why? Well you know how we are.....more is always almost enough. "

Please don't include me in the 'we' group above :grin: With all the experience listed, then researching the web and the loading books should have shown that there are NO LOADS out there recommended by anybody with that velocity level. Pursuing that level in the face of the data indicates a willingness (whether stated or not) to venture into dangerous territory for the sake of velocity. There was no ("and doing it safely" disclaimer in the original post) I think that is the reason for some of the responses.

If I come up with a load for anything I'm working on that exceeds the max velocities published anywhere, my first thought is that pressure must be too high, whether or not I am seeing any of the standard pressure signs without a strain gauge. If I were loading 180's in a 300 WSM and actually hit 3100 fps in a standard length barrel, I would back off!!

Elkeater2

 

[bullet]

Man, elkeater, you sure said that a lot better than I did, I totally agree, well put. :mrgreen:

 

[300WSM]

The debate just continues. Amazing.

So because book "A" has a velocity of 3087 fps....
and book "B" has a velocity of 3060fps...

Mind you book "A" is using brand x testing barrel and book "B" is using brand y testing platform

those resulting numbers must be set in stone. Correct? :roll:

The only thing set in stone are the numbers published in charge weights and the pressure they got from that specific testing platform.

Oh and lets not forget to mention that a powder lower velocity combo might even have higher pressure.

Different rifles do different things with the same exact load. Certainly as much as you sound off on here you do know that.?.
Having said that I'm not implying that with any rifle you are going to see a jump of 100 or 200 fps faster than the published data using the same load.

It was a stupid question if anyone was hitting 3100fps 180gr bullet with reloader 17 in a safe fashion yet thirty thousand posts later we are still slapping hands with rulers.

It was not a question asking for charge weights over anything plublished. It was NOT even a question asking for a charge weight of any kind. Did you understand it that time? Thanks

 

[bullet]

Could you say that with just a little more emphasis? :mrgreen: Hey, lighten up now and let it go, I assure you we have. :grin: Happy New Year and I do hope it is a good one.

 

[JD338]

Am I back in school again or back in jail? I can't tell the difference.
Mr Ackley where on earth does my post sound as though I have all the answers? I read, re-read and nope. Still don't see it. Oh and I didn't realize text had sound.
I did however respond to the implication and assumption that I am a newbie to all the world of reloading or worse yet care free. I get lumped into a certain type of crude care free reloader based on what? EXACTLY.

I have recieved private messages to beware of certain people and things on here and don't get baited into debates from comments...exactly like this.


Back to the important thing...the subject.

300 WSM,


EXACTLY?

Your attitude EXACTLY!

You have a lot to learn kid...

The fellas here have many more years of experience AND are willing to share it with anyone here for the asking.
We don't have to agree on everything nor do we all drink the company kool aid. What we do expect from everyone is to be respectful.

The way I see it you can either tone down your sarcasm or leave.

FWIW, this is not baiting.

JD338