308 165gr PT

[truck driver]

Picked up a bunch off SPS and was wondering what the best OAL would be in 30-06 and 300Wby.
Do they like to be seated out or shortened up like ABs?

 

[hunting1]

Can't say what is best but I get very good accuracy in mine at 3.25 OAL. The 06's I own all seem to prefer a little bit of jump. Good luck and do not overlook Varget!

 

[SJB358]

I have had good luck with them about .020 to .025" off the rifling.

 

[DrMike]

Rodger,

I've always had good luck with Partitions at 0.010" to 0.025" off the lands.

 

[truck driver]

I hadn't shot this rifle for a while do to work and only being home long enough to get clean clothes and some quality tome with the wife and was back on the road again.
So I took it out to shoot some and this is what It did. It's a Ruger 77 with tang safety in 30-06. After fouling shots I raised the poi 4 clicks which is the first time this scope has been touched since 1979.
All bullets were seated to 3.250 OAL.

 

[DrMike]

Looks as if you can work with that. I do like the .308. What is interesting is that though I tout it to people looking for an "all 'round" rifle in this area, I've never owned one. I may have to rectify that oversight. I've certainly developed some good loads for .308s that were delivered to me.

 

[truck driver]

Looks as if you can work with that. I do like the .308. What is interesting is that though I tout it to people looking for an "all 'round" rifle in this area, I've never owned one. I may have to rectify that oversight. I've certainly developed some good loads for .308s that were delivered to me.

This is my 30-06 and I can't explain the 3 in and one out. It definitely favors the Hornadays over the Noslers. I still couldn't fully support the rifle butt. the desk is too low for me to get on target without the long bipod. Not the best rest in the world but this is what I have to work with. I could probably due better resting on the hood of my pickup but then the stupid laws would come into play for shooting from a vehicle.

 

[tddeangelo]

I shoot the 165PT in my pre64 30-06. I have to check my notes on OAL, but 3.230 sticks in my head. I'll check when I get home. I seat that on top of 57.0gr IMR4350 for MOA accuracy to 300 yards.

 

[DrMike]

FWIW, Rodger, I felt the same about the .30-06 as I do about the .308 for years. I didn't want one as it was too pedestrian, too commonplace. It wasn't that the cartridge won't work--heck, it works on about everything in North America and most of the remainder of the world! I just wanted to be different from everyone else. Then, I bought one. It was a CZ550 with Mannlicher stock; it was precisely what I thought it would be. I traded it for a 300WSM. Then, in 2008, I picked up one of the FN produced Featherweights chambered in .30-06. I doubt I'll be without for many years to come. It isn't my favourite cartridge; but it will do about everything I ask it to do, and then a bit more. That's why I'm afraid to buy a .308.

 

[Oldtrader3]

I think that the world naturally falls into two preference groups on the .308 and the .30-06 with North American hunters. Probably 90% of American hunters own one caliber, or the other, or both calibers. I have owned both but not necessarily at the same time. When I hunted whitetail and lived in Texas and Georgia, I owned a .308. Now that I hunt mule deer and live in the west, I own a .30-06. They do overlap somewhat in my opinion. If I shot military match, I would own a 7.62 (.308).

Without a solid rest which is dependably reliable shot to shot, you can't establish any baseline to compare any sets of data, because your data has no repeatability!

 

[SJB358]

Very nice. Looks like a good day on the range.. Seems like with a little tweaking, that 165 PT would come right together..

 

[truck driver]

Very nice. Looks like a good day on the range.. Seems like with a little tweaking, that 165 PT would come right together..

Ya it was fun and not too hot and not too cold. I'm going to find some cinder blocks to set the desk on to raise it up so I can get everything locked down. This rifle use to shoot bug holes and I think it still will. The last target I posted was the fouling target, one was high and the next two were stacked on top each other and that ammo I had loaded 4 years ago. I really have to learn to load pics in sequence instead of back wards.
I shoot down a road between fields with a large pile of dirt that is over grown for a back stop.

 

[tddeangelo]

Rodger, just checked my notes.

165PT, 57.0gr IMR4350, COAL = 3.230".

Primers are Winchester LR, and I developed it in Hornady brass and transitioned to Nosler

Velocity is 2700-2725fps. QL projects similar with this rifle's water case capacity. Accuracy is at or somewhat better than MOA out to 300 yards.

That is in a 1949-vintage M70, "30 GOV'T 06".

 

[truck driver]

Thanks Tom
I loaded up some BT,PT and Hornaday SP inerlocks with RL 22 at Nosler tested OACL of 3.490 which just fits in the magazine and are still off the lands to see what they will do. The OAL I was using was Hornadays tested seating depth which gave a OAL of 3.25 and shot decent with the Hornaday SP but not the Nosler PT.

 

[tddeangelo]

I think you're on the right track. '22 is one I haven't run in the 06, but should try some day when I have nothing better to do.

My load shoots great in my old Winchester. Not so much in my dad's XTR FWT in 30-06. I think the same MOA producing load for my rifle gave him groups of 3MOA or more.

 

[truck driver]

My old load which I still have some loaded is 57grs of IMR 4350 with the OAL of 3.25 which is just at the base of the crimp grove on the Hornaday bullet so I'll be OK for Deer season. Just have become more mobile and getting into things.
Off topic but I'll probably be up at Ephrata (Green Dragon) on black Friday. My wife and I like to look for hidden treasures there. :roll: :mrgreen:

 

[tddeangelo]

Ahhh, the Green Dragon. Acres of.....stuff. LOL

I cannot imagine what that place looks like on Black Friday! Yikes!

I went to college near Lancaster, so I'd pass by that place all the time coming/going from home to school and vice versa. I'd tell you to eat at Zinn's, but I believe it's gone? I've heard rumors of such. Shady Maple is worth the trip, though.

 

[FOTIS]

Oh I know them things! They are trees!

 

[tddeangelo]

I wasn't aware trees existed in WY?

 

[hunting1]

Try 49-50 grains of Varget or 60-61 grs of RL22 works well. My 2-30-06's do not favor H4350/IMR. I use Hunter for 180's.