308 win load data for 140 CC

[bsmd]

New member here, and I am not having any luck with the 'search' function. I have some .308 Nosler 140 gr. CC's and I am looking for load data to use in my 308 Garand. I know that these bullets are intended for use in the 30 AR rifles, but thought someone might be using them in other applications. Any data is appreciated, it does not have to be Garand specific.
Thanks!

 

[FOTIS]

Welcome to the forum buddy.


You're better off staying with 4895 or IMR 4064 type pf burning range.

This is data with the 147 gr so you're ok.

Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 147, Sellier-Bellot FMJ-BT 2908
Useable Case Capaci: 50.070 grain H2O = 3.251 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-10x

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 83 36.00 2595 2198 41102 6221 100.0 1.286
-09.0 84 36.40 2618 2237 42290 6259 100.0 1.269
-08.0 85 36.80 2641 2277 43508 6296 100.0 1.253
-07.0 85 37.20 2664 2316 44758 6333 100.0 1.237
-06.0 86 37.60 2686 2355 46041 6370 100.0 1.222
-05.0 87 38.00 2709 2395 47357 6406 100.0 1.206
-04.0 88 38.40 2731 2434 48707 6442 100.0 1.192
-03.0 89 38.80 2753 2474 50093 6477 100.0 1.177
-02.0 90 39.20 2775 2514 51516 6513 100.0 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 91 39.60 2797 2553 52975 6548 100.0 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 92 40.00 2819 2593 54474 6582 100.0 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 93 40.40 2840 2633 56012 6617 100.0 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 94 40.80 2862 2674 57590 6651 100.0 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 95 41.20 2883 2714 59211 6684 100.0 1.095 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 96 41.60 2905 2754 60875 6717 100.0 1.082 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 96 42.00 2926 2795 62584 6750 100.0 1.070 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 92 40.00 2859 2669 59233 6462 100.0 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 92 40.00 2768 2502 49717 6729 100.0 1.178


Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 147, Sellier-Bellot FMJ-BT 2908
Useable Case Capaci: 50.070 grain H2O = 3.251 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 88 40.50 2598 2204 39300 6994 94.7 1.298
-09.0 89 40.95 2626 2250 40517 7073 95.2 1.280
-08.0 90 41.40 2653 2297 41772 7151 95.6 1.262
-07.0 91 41.85 2680 2344 43065 7227 95.9 1.245
-06.0 92 42.30 2707 2392 44398 7301 96.3 1.228
-05.0 93 42.75 2734 2440 45771 7373 96.7 1.211
-04.0 94 43.20 2761 2489 47188 7443 97.0 1.194
-03.0 95 43.65 2788 2538 48648 7510 97.3 1.178
-02.0 96 44.10 2815 2587 50154 7576 97.6 1.162
-01.0 97 44.55 2842 2636 51707 7639 97.9 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 97 45.00 2869 2686 53308 7700 98.2 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 98 45.45 2896 2737 54960 7758 98.4 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 99 45.90 2922 2787 56665 7814 98.6 1.101 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 100 46.35 2949 2838 58424 7867 98.9 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 101 46.80 2975 2890 60240 7918 99.0 1.072 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 102 47.25 3002 2942 62114 7966 99.2 1.058 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 97 45.00 2937 2816 58293 7660 99.5 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 97 45.00 2790 2540 48410 7647 95.8 1.179



Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 147, Sellier-Bellot FMJ-BT 2908
Useable Case Capaci: 50.070 grain H2O = 3.251 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4064

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 93 40.50 2534 2096 38128 6605 92.8 1.314
-09.0 94 40.95 2561 2141 39314 6685 93.2 1.295
-08.0 95 41.40 2588 2186 40538 6764 93.7 1.277
-07.0 96 41.85 2615 2232 41800 6842 94.1 1.259
-06.0 97 42.30 2642 2278 43103 6917 94.6 1.242
-05.0 98 42.75 2669 2325 44448 6991 95.0 1.225
-04.0 99 43.20 2696 2372 45836 7063 95.4 1.208
-03.0 100 43.65 2723 2419 47269 7133 95.8 1.191
-02.0 101 44.10 2749 2467 48748 7201 96.1 1.175
-01.0 102 44.55 2776 2516 50276 7268 96.5 1.159
+00.0 103 45.00 2803 2565 51853 7332 96.8 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 104 45.45 2830 2614 53483 7394 97.1 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 105 45.90 2857 2664 55167 7454 97.4 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 106 46.35 2883 2714 56907 7511 97.7 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 107 46.80 2910 2764 58706 7567 98.0 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
+05.0 108 47.25 2937 2815 60566 7620 98.2 1.069 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 103 45.00 2872 2693 56576 7348 98.7 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 103 45.00 2724 2422 47224 7234 94.0 1.191

 

[SJB358]

Here is some of the same data with the 140 CC

Cartridge : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 140, Nosler CC HPBT 53152
Useable Case Capaci: 52.413 grain H2O = 3.403 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : IMR 4064

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 95 43.13 2608 2114 40315 7726 92.5 1.187
-09.0 96 43.61 2636 2160 41597 7822 93.0 1.169
-08.0 97 44.09 2664 2207 42921 7916 93.5 1.153
-07.0 98 44.57 2693 2254 44288 8008 93.9 1.136
-06.0 99 45.04 2721 2302 45700 8098 94.4 1.120
-05.0 100 45.52 2750 2350 47159 8186 94.8 1.104
-04.0 101 46.00 2778 2399 48665 8272 95.2 1.089
-03.0 102 46.48 2806 2448 50222 8355 95.6 1.073
-02.0 103 46.96 2835 2498 51831 8436 96.0 1.058
-01.0 104 47.44 2863 2548 53493 8515 96.4 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 105 47.92 2891 2599 55212 8591 96.7 1.029 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 106 48.40 2919 2650 56989 8665 97.1 1.014 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 107 48.88 2948 2701 58827 8735 97.4 1.000 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 108 49.36 2976 2753 60729 8804 97.7 0.986 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 109 49.84 3004 2806 62697 8869 98.0 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 110 50.32 3032 2859 64733 8931 98.2 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 47.92 3026 2846 65309 8556 99.7 0.958 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 47.92 2716 2293 45433 8243 90.2 1.120



Cartridge : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 140, Nosler CC HPBT 53152
Useable Case Capaci: 52.413 grain H2O = 3.403 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 89 43.13 2673 2220 41557 8181 94.5 1.174
-09.0 90 43.61 2701 2268 42871 8276 94.9 1.157
-08.0 91 44.09 2730 2317 44226 8369 95.3 1.141
-07.0 92 44.57 2758 2365 45624 8460 95.7 1.124
-06.0 93 45.04 2787 2414 47066 8548 96.1 1.108
-05.0 94 45.52 2815 2464 48553 8634 96.5 1.093
-04.0 95 46.00 2844 2514 50087 8717 96.9 1.077
-03.0 96 46.48 2872 2565 51671 8797 97.2 1.062
-02.0 97 46.96 2901 2616 53305 8875 97.5 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 98 47.44 2929 2667 54991 8950 97.8 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 47.92 2957 2719 56732 9023 98.1 1.019 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 100 48.40 2985 2771 58530 9092 98.3 1.005 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 101 48.88 3014 2823 60387 9158 98.6 0.991 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 102 49.36 3042 2876 62304 9221 98.8 0.977 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 49.84 3070 2929 64285 9282 99.0 0.964 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 104 50.32 3098 2983 66332 9338 99.2 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 47.92 3089 2965 67351 8854 100.0 0.947 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 47.92 2781 2404 46446 8763 92.3 1.112


Sounds like a pretty fun rifle. Good luck with your load work..

 

[bsmd]

Thanks for the load data. I tried 43.0 H4895 with the 140 CC's today and they grouped well at 100 yards. 41.5 of IMR4895 did even better, although it is a pretty mild load. I havent found anything that doesnt shoot well in my 308 Garand with 41.5 grains of IMR4895.

 

[joelkdouglas]

I'd be interested to know more about the rifle also--I think Garands are cool.

New manufacture or CMP? Where'd you get it?

 

[bsmd]

joel k:
My Garand is a CMP purchase that I rebarreled with a Criterion 308 barrel. Nothing fancy, a WWII receiver (722XXX) mixmaster parts with a non-descript postwar stock, that has a tight lockup. However, I did spend a lot of time accurizing it, peening the barrel splines for a snug gas cylinder fit, relieving metal and wood in various places, trigger job and some other things. I don't collect them, I shoot them.