35 whelen
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The 35 Whelen is a power house! The 1:16 twist is just fine for the 250 gr bullets. My M700 Classic shoots 200, 225 and 250 gr bullets under MOA accuracy.
I had good luck with IMR 4064 and AA2015BR with the 250 gr PT's.
JD338
The 35 Whelen is a power house! The 1:16 twist is just fine for the 250 gr bullets. My M700 Classic shoots 200, 225 and 250 gr bullets under MOA accuracy.
I had good luck with IMR 4064 and AA2015BR with the 250 gr PT's.
JD338
DrMike
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1:16 is pretty standard for 35 calibre bullets. JD338 is correct in pointing you toward the 250 grain bullets in your 35 Whelan. Congratulations on securing a good cartridge in a classic rifle.
RiverRider
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Re15 and the 225-grain AccuBond is a combination worth looking at. Getting 2700 fps is not too terribly difficult in a 24-inch barrel.
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RiverRider":zfjdgleh said:
With 59.0 grs RL 15 and the 225 gr AB, my M700 Classic 35 Whelen with a 22" barrel does an avg MV of 2648 fps, ES 17 SD 8. Accuracy is just over an inch so I need to work with this load a bit.
JD338
The Whelen is my favorite round hands down. The only powder I have ever used is RL15. I have only loaded 225 and 250gr bullets. The 225's were TSX's over 60gr. Very accurate load and man, it was smashing on elk, deer and black bear. I have kinda gotten away from TSX's and been using the 250gr Speer Hot Cor recently. Haven't had a chance to put one into an animal yet, but I am able to get them up to 2580FPS with 59gr's of RL15, CCI250's and R-P Cases with MOA accuracy out to 300 yards. I really cannot wait to try that load out on some deer. I have a 338 and a 35 Whelen and really, I like the Whelen more. It darn near matches the 338 at normal hunting ranges and uses less powder and is a very slick rifle. I don't think you will have any issues stabilizing 250's out of your 750. Scotty
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I have often thought---with some reservations---that the Whelen is all the rifle anyone would ever need in North America. The performance you get seems to be out of proportion for the size of the case, compared to the belted mags.
Although I wish it were not so, I have no experience with large northern bears but to gain such experience is one of the dreams I'd like to fulfill...and sometimes I say I'd just go with my Whelen if I ever get the chance to hunt Browns. But when I see a picture of a big Brown I find myself thinking "a .375 Ouch & Ouch might be nice to have."
Nonetheless, I think the .35 Whelen might be the caliber of choice if a guy has to choose a caliber for his one and only rifle. Truth is, when I get to thinking about that proposition, several '06-based cartridges come to mind. All the '06's progeny are outstanding, and so is the original!
Although I wish it were not so, I have no experience with large northern bears but to gain such experience is one of the dreams I'd like to fulfill...and sometimes I say I'd just go with my Whelen if I ever get the chance to hunt Browns. But when I see a picture of a big Brown I find myself thinking "a .375 Ouch & Ouch might be nice to have."
Nonetheless, I think the .35 Whelen might be the caliber of choice if a guy has to choose a caliber for his one and only rifle. Truth is, when I get to thinking about that proposition, several '06-based cartridges come to mind. All the '06's progeny are outstanding, and so is the original!
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The 35 Whelen is a 350 yd elk/moose rifle with the right loads. With the right rifle and load, accuracy is excellent and plenty of down range energy and penetration.
The 250 gr PT at 2500 fps would take care of the big bears and there are a few AK guides that carry a 35 Whelen for back up.
JD338
The 250 gr PT at 2500 fps would take care of the big bears and there are a few AK guides that carry a 35 Whelen for back up.
JD338
Here is a 300 yard group with the Whelen. I have mine zeroed 3" high at 100 yards and at 300 it is about 8" low.
I haven't taken it back to 400 yet, but I suspect it will still be MOA or better. These are the 250gr Speer Hot Cors, over 59gr of RL15. It is an excellent shooting rifle/round. Scotty
I haven't taken it back to 400 yet, but I suspect it will still be MOA or better. These are the 250gr Speer Hot Cors, over 59gr of RL15. It is an excellent shooting rifle/round. Scotty
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BK":2zzl5edq said:
275gr bullet would be a little obnoxious in recoil
Sounds like an accurate rifle and great load Bill. I haven't shot the Hornady 250s out of my Whelen, but they sound like a really accurate bullet. If you get a chance, try some RL15. I am nearly at 2600 with the Speer 250gr Spitzer and it is MOA accurate to 300 yards. Scotty
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Nothing wrong with that group, Bill. Sounds like a great load. Have you used your Whelan to take much game? It seems as if you favour the magnums from your other posts.
Dr. Mike
No I have not taken any game with it as a Whelan. As an 06 I killed a number of elk and deer with it. Its a 1956, 721 Remington I refrubished a couple of years ago and hunted with it in Western Washington last year but no shot opportunity. I do favor the magnums because like your country I am typically shooting cross canyon or at longer ranges, hence the 300, and STW they just reach out there easier.
Your hunt is getting real close isn't it? I will bet you are getting reved up now? Did the new rifle get finished I haven't seen anything on the forum about it?
No I have not taken any game with it as a Whelan. As an 06 I killed a number of elk and deer with it. Its a 1956, 721 Remington I refrubished a couple of years ago and hunted with it in Western Washington last year but no shot opportunity. I do favor the magnums because like your country I am typically shooting cross canyon or at longer ranges, hence the 300, and STW they just reach out there easier.
Your hunt is getting real close isn't it? I will bet you are getting reved up now? Did the new rifle get finished I haven't seen anything on the forum about it?
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It doesn't look as if I'll be carrying the 9.3 X 64 this fall, but one can never tell. The boys could surprise me. The hold up seems to be waiting for the Pac-Nor barrel. I did pick up more bullets yesterday just so I'll not be scrambling for load development if it should show up shortly.
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Scotty,
I like the Whelan, and I am glad that I have one. I do believe it is an underrated cartridge, much as the 358 is underrated. The 35 calibre and up cartridges kill game far better than they should. I know that I've even taken bison with my 358 BLR, though I would like a little more "oomph" in the future for such big animals. I've used the .356 to take grizzly, and it did a great job. I would imagine that the 35 Whelan would do just a little better because of more horsepower.
I like the Whelan, and I am glad that I have one. I do believe it is an underrated cartridge, much as the 358 is underrated. The 35 calibre and up cartridges kill game far better than they should. I know that I've even taken bison with my 358 BLR, though I would like a little more "oomph" in the future for such big animals. I've used the .356 to take grizzly, and it did a great job. I would imagine that the 35 Whelan would do just a little better because of more horsepower.
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