trsmith1818
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Any one have a pic of the data for this bullet they can share? My most recent manual doesn't have it
6.5 CM load data using 143 gr Hornady ELDX
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DrMike
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Don't have a way to send the pic (no scanner), but I can give you a QL projection.
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Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 46.285 grain H2O = 3.005 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62350 psi, or 429 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-26 106.7 48.9 3.17 2944 100.0 62350 10910 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 107.3 47.8 3.10 2913 99.7 62350 11023 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 109.0 47.5 3.08 2897 97.6 62350 11211 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 103.6 47.1 3.05 2891 99.9 62350 10660 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 109.3 49.6 3.21 2888 96.2 62350 11250 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 111.2 50.6 3.28 2884 98.3 62350 10975 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 111.3 50.7 3.29 2884 98.2 62350 10991 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 109.3 47.1 3.05 2878 99.0 62350 10819 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 109.3 47.1 3.05 2878 99.0 62350 10819 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 109.3 47.1 3.05 2878 99.0 62350 10819 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 97.3 43.5 2.82 2876 100.0 62350 9744 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 107.2 47.0 3.04 2873 97.9 62350 10800 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 112.0 47.3 3.06 2871 98.9 61920 10818 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 112.0 47.3 3.06 2871 98.9 61920 10818 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 108.0 46.6 3.02 2857 97.7 62350 10700 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 96.3 43.1 2.79 2854 100.0 62350 9680 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 96.3 43.1 2.79 2854 100.0 62350 9680 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 112.0 46.7 3.03 2852 100.0 61899 9777 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 108.5 50.4 3.27 2849 99.3 62350 10306 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 111.8 49.5 3.21 2840 97.8 62350 10533 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 110.3 46.7 3.03 2837 97.5 62350 10471 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 112.0 46.4 3.01 2836 97.5 59767 10707 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 99.8 44.6 2.89 2831 100.0 62350 9769 1.207 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 101.8 44.9 2.91 2831 99.9 62350 10052 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 103.0 42.8 2.77 2831 100.0 62350 9538 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.6 45.0 2.92 2829 98.9 62350 10271 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 97.8 44.4 2.88 2828 99.9 62350 9980 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 101.0 44.5 2.88 2827 99.9 62350 9966 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 104.9 44.5 2.88 2827 98.8 62350 10191 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 106.3 45.4 2.94 2822 98.8 62350 10195 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 103.1 43.8 2.84 2822 100.0 62350 9230 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 95.4 43.0 2.79 2821 99.7 62350 9970 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 95.4 43.0 2.79 2821 99.7 62350 9970 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 111.6 48.6 3.15 2818 95.6 62350 10507 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 112.0 47.5 3.08 2814 100.0 55607 10502 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 97.6 42.6 2.76 2806 100.0 62350 9647 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 100.5 42.4 2.75 2805 100.0 62350 9513 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 100.6 42.4 2.75 2805 100.0 62350 9510 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 99.8 42.6 2.76 2802 100.0 62350 9472 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 103.3 44.1 2.85 2801 98.6 62350 9977 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 100.0 44.1 2.85 2801 98.6 62350 9977 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 103.3 44.1 2.85 2801 98.6 62350 9977 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 110.9 46.0 2.98 2797 97.1 62350 10066 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 106.6 46.0 2.98 2797 97.1 62350 10066 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 105.8 45.6 2.96 2794 99.4 62350 9810 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 105.5 43.1 2.79 2788 100.0 62350 9301 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 109.2 46.6 3.02 2785 99.9 62350 9546 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 100.8 43.7 2.83 2781 99.5 62350 9625 1.207 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 103.9 46.7 3.03 2780 98.7 62350 9732 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 111.2 46.9 3.04 2777 99.1 62350 9562 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 104.0 43.7 2.83 2769 97.8 62350 9697 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 100.0 42.2 2.73 2765 99.7 62350 9453 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 103.2 42.6 2.76 2764 100.0 62350 8739 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 107.6 44.7 2.89 2761 97.3 62350 9751 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 92.7 40.4 2.62 2759 100.0 62350 9165 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 111.0 45.4 2.94 2753 97.7 62350 9516 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 93.1 40.1 2.60 2749 100.0 62350 8813 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 93.1 40.1 2.60 2749 100.0 62350 8813 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 95.2 40.2 2.60 2744 100.0 62350 8732 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 97.5 40.8 2.65 2741 99.4 62350 9281 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 97.5 40.8 2.65 2741 99.4 62350 9281 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 98.8 41.2 2.67 2741 100.0 62350 9090 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 94.5 40.9 2.65 2740 99.4 62350 9275 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 95.3 39.8 2.58 2740 100.0 62350 8751 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 102.8 46.7 3.03 2738 97.0 62350 9503 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 112.0 47.8 3.10 2730 96.3 50305 10811 1.301
Norma MRP 2 112.0 47.8 3.10 2730 96.3 50305 10811 1.301
Vihtavuori N570 112.0 50.4 3.26 2720 89.8 49196 11413 1.308
Accurate 4064 92.6 38.6 2.50 2705 100.0 62350 8243 1.252 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 112.0 45.2 2.93 2697 99.6 55563 9417 1.286 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron 111.7 47.1 3.05 2679 89.6 62350 9195 1.208 ! Near Maximum !- Thread starter
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trsmith1818
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I am too stupid to understand that Quick load data
DrMike
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Not a matter of intelligence, but an explanation is in order. Perhaps this will help.
After the powder is listed, the first column is the loading ratio (amount of fill for a given powder). Then, the approximate maximum charge is listed in grains and in grams. After this is a column with the anticipated maximum velocity in a 24 inch barrel (in this instance). Then you see a column giving the percentage of powder burned. Then, you have a maximum chamber pressure, followed by a maximum muzzle pressure. Finally, there is a time for the bullet to clear the barrel in milliseconds. This allows you to choose what powders to use on the basis of charge volume or anticipated velocity or barrel time.
I set up the chart to provide the powders in descending order from the highest anticipated velocity to the lowest.
After the powder is listed, the first column is the loading ratio (amount of fill for a given powder). Then, the approximate maximum charge is listed in grains and in grams. After this is a column with the anticipated maximum velocity in a 24 inch barrel (in this instance). Then you see a column giving the percentage of powder burned. Then, you have a maximum chamber pressure, followed by a maximum muzzle pressure. Finally, there is a time for the bullet to clear the barrel in milliseconds. This allows you to choose what powders to use on the basis of charge volume or anticipated velocity or barrel time.
I set up the chart to provide the powders in descending order from the highest anticipated velocity to the lowest.
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trsmith1818
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you guys are the best. Thanks
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SJB358":3pmidtrd said:
Followed with heavy crunching of powder I bet.
Cleveland48
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I bet it’s pretty compressed lol. People have been getting some insane speeds and accuracy with RL26. Really makes me wanna try it.TackDriver284":2il5a7hz said:
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Cleveland48":3161e8jx said:
Interesting to see ( during load developments ) if you measure your first charge of your first compressed 3 loaded rounds and the last increased charge of your last 3 compressed rounds, you can see the different COAL , try measuring each of those different 3 groups of loaded rounds and see your COAL increase, lol. On the .308 with the 10 inch long drop tube with the IMR 4064, I see each .3 grain incremented round measures an additional .001 -.002" in COAL. It's hard to keep all the rounds on the same COAL.
Cleveland48
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Absolutely! I ran into this issue stuffing IMR 7828 behind a 140 when I owned a 260 Rem. I know that seems an odd powder choice but it shot great lol.TackDriver284":1lxqq28k said:
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trsmith1818
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Thanks for the explanation Dr Mike and thanks to hodgeman for the page pic.
If you guys had to pick ONE powder which one would you try and why?
Trying to be as efficient with my load development as I can
If you guys had to pick ONE powder which one would you try and why?
Trying to be as efficient with my load development as I can
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There are a bunch of great powders for the 6.5 CM. My favorite though would have to be RL16. Reasons being I get great accuracy, speed, and temp stability. But those are also the benefits of H4350, IMR4451 too. RL 17 has been extremely accurate fo me also, but lacks some in the temp stability department.trsmith1818":lfr6rwl6 said:
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Thanks...was looking into superformance. love the speed and unlike H4350, which I have better chance of finding a unicorn nowadays, seems to readily available.
thoughts?
thoughts?
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I fired 4 different SuperP loads each with 3 different bullets- 129SST, 130AB and 143ELDX. Everything loaded to book OAL so no messing with seating depth...just varying charge weights. It favored charges toward to heavier end with all bullet weights.
Everything was "hunting grade" accuracy at 1.5" or smaller and a max load behind a 143ELDX was a 0.546" group. I just simply can't shoot any better than that. Max charges behind both the SST and AB were a little under an inch. The SST load had a slightly stiff bolt lift, but no additional pressure signs.
I like the way it meters and it was very easy to get consistent charge weights. I've done limited load development with it in other cartridges, but in the 6.5 I couldn't find anything negative.
I'm trying it in my .300WSM with the 165AB soon and trying both the 6.5 and 300 loads over a chronograph once it warms up a bit.
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trsmith1818":1aur5nrs said:
H4350, its so consistent and works very well, but hard to find.
Cleveland48
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H4350 is a great powder, but so hard to find a supply of it nowadays. I’ve had great luck with RL16. Also hear IMR4451 is a great replacement too, but I have yet to try any out myself.
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I’ve never tried superformance, but I’ve heard good things. And your right superformance is always on the shelf!trsmith1818":2ox8k5s4 said:
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