I have a rather finicky Remington 700 SA in 243 I gave up shooting in the mid 90s and parked it. I'm a long time fan of 6.5 and was thinking about having a new Pac Nor barrel of some sort of 6.5 put on it. Looking at the 260 Remington but just noticed the 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady just came out with. It looks interesting. Or what non wildcat 6.5 would you have done for this 700 SA.
6.5 Creedmoor, Whatch think?
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Looks like a fairly impressive cartridge. Initially I was going to say I'd shy away from it only for brass availability purposes, but it appears Hornady is making it quite avalible about now???
With both the Creedmore & .260 having the same bolt face diameter it would be an easy change over.
Hornaday is listing the 120grn A-max @ a little over 3000fps. The new Nosler #6 Book list the fastes velocity for a 120B-tip out of the .260 @ 3049fps with most loads around 2900fps.
I just purchased a chrony and have a Model 7 in a .260. Hope to have more data tomorrow on that round, but I've become a hugge believer in the .260
let us know what you decide.....
With both the Creedmore & .260 having the same bolt face diameter it would be an easy change over.
Hornaday is listing the 120grn A-max @ a little over 3000fps. The new Nosler #6 Book list the fastes velocity for a 120B-tip out of the .260 @ 3049fps with most loads around 2900fps.
I just purchased a chrony and have a Model 7 in a .260. Hope to have more data tomorrow on that round, but I've become a hugge believer in the .260
let us know what you decide.....
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I think the 260 Rem would be a good choice. Based on the 308 Win, brass sources are good and plentiful. If you wanted something different, the 260 AI would give you a nice option of extra power or shooting factory ammo in a pinch.
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Not a whole lot of differnce between the Creedmore and the .260rem. Both are based on the .308win case with the Creedmore being a necked down .30T/C which is in turn a shortened .308win.
I would stick with the .260rem for the brass alone. Nosler and Lapua make brass for the .260.
I would stick with the .260rem for the brass alone. Nosler and Lapua make brass for the .260.
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Don't really know what to think of it yet - the 6.5 Creedmoor seems to be a good cartridge, but so is the .260 Rem, aka 6.5-08.
The new 6.5x47 attracted a lot of attention when it came out last year, and several guys at our local club had rifles built in it. Nice results so far.
All three look like winners to me - but I don't know if there's room for all three in that particular niche market. Here's a link to an interesting article comparing the three, by Zak Smith:
http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shoo ... creedmoor/
Regards, Guy
The new 6.5x47 attracted a lot of attention when it came out last year, and several guys at our local club had rifles built in it. Nice results so far.
All three look like winners to me - but I don't know if there's room for all three in that particular niche market. Here's a link to an interesting article comparing the three, by Zak Smith:
http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shoo ... creedmoor/
Regards, Guy
The thoughts and reasons for the Creedmore are more about Details than velocity.
--1 The 260 Rem is slightly too long for the short actions. C.O.A.L. on the 260 mandates seating long bullets into the powder column in a standard SA. The Creedmore has similar powder capacity, but because the case was shortened it adds some versatility in bullet selection / seating depth. In short with the Creedmore you get a little better loading / reloading versatility.
--2 Brass / Cartridge design of the two are actually pretty close in terms of both being good designs. The Creedmore is actually closer to an Improved design than the 260 is however. The Creedmore should have a little better brass stability than the 260. Again really just an "Attention to Detail" thing. Not what i would call a big deal, just one of those small facts.
--3 Right from the very first design stages of this cartridge the designers built this for Shooter / Reloaders / Enthusiasts. The Loading information is / will be printed right on the box, The reason being any factory load can be fully duplicated by us the shooters if we so desire. This Cartridge is loaded by Hornady with H4350, which is widely regarded as an extremely good powder for any type of high powered competition under any and all weather conditions.
Now just for the record I currently shoot RL22 out of my 6.5x55 Swede Ack Imp. so I am not a Hodgdon zealot
Nor am I one of those "Oh God it is New So it Rulezors!!!"typpes, I am only passing on a combination of Facts and Thoughts regarding this new Cartridge. Oh, I actually Like the 260 quite a bit, so do not think I was trying to bash it. If i had a 260 and seen this Creedmore, i doubt i would dump my old setup for the new guy. Likewise my 6.5x55! Now if i wanted a new 6.5 of some kind I would most definitely look hard and close at the Creedmore. My only real reservation is Brass. Hornady can make pretty good brass but like Federal it has tended to be a little on the soft side of things. I have a personal feeling that the Creedmore brass will turn out to be world class however. Note that i said this is my personal feeling, not a fact.
Good shooting,
Gary
--1 The 260 Rem is slightly too long for the short actions. C.O.A.L. on the 260 mandates seating long bullets into the powder column in a standard SA. The Creedmore has similar powder capacity, but because the case was shortened it adds some versatility in bullet selection / seating depth. In short with the Creedmore you get a little better loading / reloading versatility.
--2 Brass / Cartridge design of the two are actually pretty close in terms of both being good designs. The Creedmore is actually closer to an Improved design than the 260 is however. The Creedmore should have a little better brass stability than the 260. Again really just an "Attention to Detail" thing. Not what i would call a big deal, just one of those small facts.
--3 Right from the very first design stages of this cartridge the designers built this for Shooter / Reloaders / Enthusiasts. The Loading information is / will be printed right on the box, The reason being any factory load can be fully duplicated by us the shooters if we so desire. This Cartridge is loaded by Hornady with H4350, which is widely regarded as an extremely good powder for any type of high powered competition under any and all weather conditions.
Now just for the record I currently shoot RL22 out of my 6.5x55 Swede Ack Imp. so I am not a Hodgdon zealot
Nor am I one of those "Oh God it is New So it Rulezors!!!"typpes, I am only passing on a combination of Facts and Thoughts regarding this new Cartridge. Oh, I actually Like the 260 quite a bit, so do not think I was trying to bash it. If i had a 260 and seen this Creedmore, i doubt i would dump my old setup for the new guy. Likewise my 6.5x55! Now if i wanted a new 6.5 of some kind I would most definitely look hard and close at the Creedmore. My only real reservation is Brass. Hornady can make pretty good brass but like Federal it has tended to be a little on the soft side of things. I have a personal feeling that the Creedmore brass will turn out to be world class however. Note that i said this is my personal feeling, not a fact.Good shooting,
Gary
I shot my first deer with a 6.5X55 in 19(mumble), and I have used a 6.5-'06 for about 20 years as a deer rifle. If you are going to be hunting I recommend the .260 Rem, or 6.5-'08/6.5X51.
The newer choices are fun, but are intended more for target work.
John Barsness finished off the bullet intrusion myth, and the short action will host the 51 mm cartridge case without strain.
jim
The newer choices are fun, but are intended more for target work.
John Barsness finished off the bullet intrusion myth, and the short action will host the 51 mm cartridge case without strain.
jim
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Please enlighten me as to where to find Barsness' dismissing of the powder column intrusion issue, as I'm in the middle of one of those conversations with someone over the last week. TIA.
