7 Rem. Mag. vs 300 Win Mag.

[Vince]

I'm in favor of the 26" barrel for the .300 mag.
With slow burning powders you have more time to let the powder burn in longer tube.

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[PJGunner]

I have four rifles in .300 Win. Mag,. All have 26" barrels. There are B and S models of the Ruger #1 and the fourth is a Winchester M70. Three are very accurate and the fourth, a Ruger #1S Liberty model hasn't been shot yet. Don't really know why. Just haven't gotten around to it.
I'm thinking I might do a 7MM Rem. Mag. build on a Winchester Stainless Classic I have, put it in a McMillan stock I have and go with a 26" barrel on that one as well. I haven't found that extra two inches to be a bother on the .300 Mag. M70.
Paul B.

 

[longrangehunter]

Honestly which ever cartridge you decide to go with, you will be better served to use a 26" barrel. You'll gain 30 fps per inch over a 24" barrel. Even if you tone down the velocity of the load for accuracy, the speed will still be there. The 300 WM will need a 230 grain bullet to equal the 7mm Rem. Magnum with 180's BC wise, which will produce more recoil if both bullets are started at the same speed.

 

[jagermeister]

I hear you.....
Problem is that the rifle I am after is offered in 62 cm. (24,4") barrel length.

 

[Oldtrader3]

Cole, the lighter rifle or the one with a larger powder charge will recoil more.

 

[Vince]

Jagermeister,

I'd look hard at a WSM then if limited to a 24" barrel.
They were designed around the 24" barrel and you will likely see the best performance with a 24" tube.

Vince

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[jagermeister]

Sadly the Sauer 404 will not be chambered for WSM family.
Only 7 Rem, 300 win, 8x68S or 338 win, for the Magnum family and only in a 24" tube.
Strangly enough, on the other hand, Blaser R8 do offer the WSM in 26" tube...
And Blaser owns Sauer...

 

[Vince]

Go for the Blaser then.

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Just to add, if I could get the Nosler rifle in a left hand short action I would've gotten the .300 WSM.

 

[.300winmag]

I push 215's out of my 28" Hart .300 win. Mag. at just under 3,000 fps with a stout charge of H1000, I think they're both great cartridges but I'm in love with that .300 round. That's my vote

 

[SJB358]

I hear you.....
Problem is that the rifle I am after is offered in 62 cm. (24,4") barrel length.

I'll go for a 24" 300 Win Mag all day long. Ran one for a long time. 180's still came out around 3075 and 200 PTs could easily break 2950 without stressing cases. Could be better but that's what I used for quite awhile. I wouldn't be adverse to a 26" if the right rifle came along but I'd never pass up a perfect 300 with a 24" barrel either.

 

[SJB358]

Yeah, and Steve is likely shooting one of the most accurate 300's on here. He knows his way around that rifle!

I do like the 300 Win Mag but twist and bullets will make more difference than how either "bests" the other in hunting.

Kevin said it well, it'd take a 230 at 3000 to match a 7mm 180 at 3000. I'd bet recoil on the same rifle would be noticed. Like them both but those danged 7's are good!

 

[jagermeister]

Go for the Blaser then.
......

Although Blaser R93/R8 are very excellent and accurate rifles, I am not a big fan of that type of bolt (opening fins).
No direct experience on any kind of problems (a friend of mine has an R93 with 4 barrels and never had any issue - and he put thousands of rounds down those tubes :wink: ), but I just do not like the idea of the way bolt is locking, relying on that "radial" action....
That's why Sauer comes into place.
Same manufacturer basically, same quality, less plastic parts and, most importantly, a 6 lugs rotating bolt :mrgreen:

If I had to choose, in the same rifle, between .300 Win.Mag. vs 300 WSM, I'd probably go with the WSM, but if only the Winnie is available, I wouldn't make it a big of a deal and go along...

Here is more .284" vs. 308" diameter bullets :lol:

 

[jagermeister]

I push 215's out of my 28" Hart .300 win. Mag. at just under 3,000 fps with a stout charge of H1000, I think they're both great cartridges but I'm in love with that .300 round. That's my vote

Mmmh....I think I'd settle for that kind of grouping :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Good shooting !

 

[Vince]

If I was a smart man I'd go with the 7mm Mag but I'm not.
The rifle I'm having built is a 30-06. My reasons are simple, I have plenty of brass and bullets on hand as I already have a 30-06.
While I've never been drawn to the .284 bullets I'm starting to see their advantages. If this is going to be your one rifle for all game I'd opt for the .308 over the .284. If this is going to be a rifle that is part of a battery, with smaller and larger calibers to use, I'd jump on the .284 and not look back.

Vince

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[Oldtrader3]

You can get close to 2900 fps with the .30-06 and the 165 Partition. I have and like the .30-06 and I have a 7mm mag which I also like. There are no flies on the .30-06 for deer certainly. All of the ones that I have killed with the 165 Partition, died without drama.

 

[jagermeister]

30.06 is a very good and well known caliber all over the world and it can take game at long range in the hands of the right hunter, but I don't believe it can be compared to the 300 Winnie in any way, apart from sharing some of the same bullets imho.
[WINKING FACE]

 

[Vince]

30.06 is a very good and well known caliber all over the world and it can take game at long range in the hands of the right hunter, but I don't believe it can be compared to the 300 Winnie in any way, apart from sharing some of the same bullets imho.
[WINKING FACE]

I agree.
If I need a magnum I'll step up to the. 338 Win Mag. [emoji41]
I've just not become enamored with the. 300 Win Mag having had two of them. The .300 WSM on the other hand attracts me a whole bunch.

Vince

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