And So It Begins...

[DrMike]

I expected Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein to call for gun control; but I could not have imagine that Mark Warner and Joe Manchin would issue a call for an "assault weapons ban." This is nothing but pandering to their supposed base. People in WV and VA must surely be wondering about those whom they elected to represent them in the Senate.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...US-Senators-call-for-assault-weapons-ban.html

 

[JD338]

As we all know the old saying...
Guns don't kill people, People kill people.

The liberals know what is best for us. As long as the jack wagons that keep voting them in, we have very little to stand on.

JD338

 

[DrMike]

Here is another update on the likelihood of the Senate moving to reintroduce, and pass, some form of gun control. It looks as if the House is the place that will determine if there will be gun control (citizen control :?: ) or a more sensible action in light of the Shady Hook tragedy.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/17/slaughter-of-innocents-changes-minds-of-pro-gun-de/

 

[DrMike]

Of course, the Prez must appeal to his constituency.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/12/white-house-obama-would-support-new-gun-laws-152297.html

The media will begin a drum roll to march Congress toward the preferred conclusion of gun bans. It does not matter that no "assault rifle" was used in Newtown. It feels good, so they will do it.

 

[Kodiak]

The Nation's #1 gun sales-man strikes again!

A little gun-shop near here sold 31 of 33 ARs he had in stock this morning in about 4 hrs.. All the magazines he had are also gone :roll: . Of 15 (1000 rnd.) cases of .223 PMC ammo he had, all are gone 8) . When I left there, a couple of people were still waiting for Govt. clearence.

Owner said he has 20 more ARs coming in, but didn't know when.

And of course, folks are still shootin' other folks. Last nite somewhere in TX a shooter shot-up a movie theater 'cause his girl-friend drop'd him. He paid with his life there, as an off-duty cop was in the movie and she killed him. Then in CO, a few more were found already deceased, murder/suicide.

Don't ask me, 'cause I don't know!

 

[FOTIS]

Well said Jim.. It never ends.

 

[Oldtrader3]

I you read the endless Liberal drivel in the letters to the editor of west coast papers, it would surprise no one that there are many disassociated, disconnected and distracted individuals who do not know which end is up. If they are already bipolar or paranoid, it is a short step to lossing control at any time. These individuals have been programmed by the media and liberal establishment, including the press, until they believe all of the platitudes and lies of the Liberal media and government. They swallow each new federal or state directive or lie, hook line and sinker (unquestionally).

The liberals here tried to legislate the stoppage of shipping of coal through Washington state altogether and make it illegal. This because Obama has said that Demon coal needed to be put out of business and there is a planned deep water coal shipping depot planned to be built here to ship coal to China. You should read some of the lies in letters about demon coal in the newspaper!

Despite all this, the fact still remains that millions of acts of individual's protecting themselves and their families still tip the scales for having universal gun ownership and supporting the Second Amendment. I have had to use a gun to defend my home, family and our children on (5) occasions during my 70 years on this earth. None of these occasions resulted in a shooting because I was able to defuse them, bringing these threatening individuals down peacefully by pointing a large gun at them. However, without a gun, I would not be sitting here writing this now. I would be long dead and there is no doubt in my mind of this fact!

 

[BeeTee]

The liberals here tried to legislate the stoppage of shipping of coal through Washington state altogether and make it illegal. This because Obama has said that Demon coal needed to be put out of business and there is a planned deep water coal shipping depot planned to be built here to ship coal to China. You should read some of the lies in letters about demon coal in the newspaper!

I'm all for using coal, but against coal exports because:

1- Exporting coal is exporting America's future.

2- Exporting coal reduces our ability to become energy independent.

3- Each ton of coal can be processed into approximately 2 barrels of oil. Export price per ton of coal is below the price of 2 barrels of oil. Why not make oil with it, and import less.

4- A multi-national energy company makes the profit.

5- Most coal is found on public lands. The coal really belongs to all of us.

BT

 

[wayno945]

The run on everything is worse than 08. All of my favorite sites are sold out of everything! This is crazy!

 

[Oldtrader3]

The liberals here tried to legislate the stoppage of shipping of coal through Washington state altogether and make it illegal. This because Obama has said that Demon coal needed to be put out of business and there is a planned deep water coal shipping depot planned to be built here to ship coal to China. You should read some of the lies in letters about demon coal in the newspaper!

I'm all for using coal, but against coal exports because:

1- Exporting coal is exporting America's future.

2- Exporting coal reduces our ability to become energy independent.

3- Each ton of coal can be processed into approximately 2 barrels of oil. Export price per ton of coal is below the price of 2 barrels of oil. Why not make oil with it, and import less.

4- A multi-national energy company makes the profit.

5- Most coal is found on public lands. The coal really belongs to all of us.

BT

BT, I agree with you absolutely. The Demon coal nonsense is the usual Obama misread and misundersanding of energy independence and how to have a strong America. He is doing everything in his power to make America weak. Plus, he has no work ethic or understanding of work ethic to help get things moving and on track. I think that people will be on to hm soon for the weak, petty tyrant that he is plus, the trouble that he has already and will cause the US internationally.

The coal issue on building the ship depot fortunately is being voted through by a 2 to1 margin. The Liberals are losing this one badly.

 

[BeeTee]

BT, I agree with you absolutely. The Demon coal nonsense is the usual Obama misread and misundersanding of energy independence and how to have a strong America. He is doing everything in his power to make America weak. Plus, he has no work ethic or understanding of work ethic to help get things moving and on track. I think that people will be on to hm soon for the weak, petty tyrant that he is plus, the trouble that he has already and will cause the US internationally.

The coal issue on building the ship depot fortunately is being voted through by a 2 to1 margin. The Liberals are losing this one badly.

The administration's position on coal is so nonsensical.... They say, "we can't use it here because of CO2 emissions", but... it's ok for it to be burned in China?

The nonsensical aspect may be explained by the state and federal taxes that are paid on exported coal. Large multi-national corporations pay for a lot for Washington lobbyists and campaign contributions. BT

 

[DrMike]

Wayne Root has penned an excellent commentary filled with statistics that are worth a read. Every gun owner, hunter and paper puncher should be aware of these stats.

http://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2012/12/23/guns-save-lives-n1472232/page/full/

 

[nvbroncrider]

The liberals here tried to legislate the stoppage of shipping of coal through Washington state altogether and make it illegal. This because Obama has said that Demon coal needed to be put out of business and there is a planned deep water coal shipping depot planned to be built here to ship coal to China. You should read some of the lies in letters about demon coal in the newspaper!

I'm all for using coal, but against coal exports because:

1- Exporting coal is exporting America's future.

2- Exporting coal reduces our ability to become energy independent.

3- Each ton of coal can be processed into approximately 2 barrels of oil. Export price per ton of coal is below the price of 2 barrels of oil. Why not make oil with it, and import less.

4- A multi-national energy company makes the profit.

5- Most coal is found on public lands. The coal really belongs to all of us.

BT

BT, I agree with you absolutely. The Demon coal nonsense is the usual Obama misread and misundersanding of energy independence and how to have a strong America. He is doing everything in his power to make America weak. Plus, he has no work ethic or understanding of work ethic to help get things moving and on track. I think that people will be on to hm soon for the weak, petty tyrant that he is plus, the trouble that he has already and will cause the US internationally.

The coal issue on building the ship depot fortunately is being voted through by a 2 to1 margin. The Liberals are losing this one badly.

Not to mention Obama's failed attempts with Solyndra and such. Wind and solar power is not a feasible solution. The electricity is too unreliable and dirty and expensive to make it work. After wind goes through a wind turbine and generator you then need a rectifier to clean the electricty up to make it avalible to the grid. They also can't support the grid to make it stable for use. In turn you must have "real" powerplants to ensure quality electricity.Not to mention that you can't count on the wind blowing all day and night or having sunlight for 24 hours. It is a total farce and detrimental to the end user. Not to mention the only way this is feasible is that we pay for it. The subsidies for these industries is unreal. No different than the ethanol debacle which requires 20 gallons of diesel fuel to make one gallon of ethanol. These people are killing us and they don't get it.

 

[BeeTee]

BT, I agree with you absolutely. The Demon coal nonsense is the usual Obama misread and misundersanding of energy independence and how to have a strong America. He is doing everything in his power to make America weak. Plus, he has no work ethic or understanding of work ethic to help get things moving and on track. I think that people will be on to hm soon for the weak, petty tyrant that he is plus, the trouble that he has already and will cause the US internationally.

The coal issue on building the ship depot fortunately is being voted through by a 2 to1 margin. The Liberals are losing this one badly.

The biggest argument against coal use is CO2. Of course that's BS, but that's what they say. If burning coal is harming the planet's climate (BS), why is its use here being discouraged, but it's OK to export it to China? The weakening of America is the only logical answer (that plus extraction/export taxes and campaign contributions).

The dirty little secret about the proposed Keystone pipeline is that it'll create a new export opportunity for the oil companies - not make North America more energy independent. Canada is a net oil exporter. If I were a Canadian, I'd be really pissed about what they pay for gasoline/diesel.

 

[onesonek]

Then there is the back door crap now?
Went to pick up that DMPS yesterday, and NICS turned it over for further review. Talking with Steve the shop owner, he said over the past 4 yrs, he's been experiencing about a 10% "further review". Seems as of late, that went to 70% avg. over the past 4-5 business days, and mostly on semi autos of any kind. I have nothing that warrants further review. Now I won't get it until late next week, if that soon.
My question(s), are they just being swamped,,,, are they just really trying to make it a pita,,,,or does it go beyond that even further?
I don't know, but something is going on, and well beyond the norm.

 

[BeeTee]

My question(s), are they just being swamped,,,, are they just really trying to make it a pita,,,,or does it go beyond that even further?
I don't know, but something is going on, and well beyond the norm.

I bought a new bolt rifle in the days before Christmas. Getting the official Okie-Dokie took about 3 hours, where in the past few years the process took mere minutes. I attribute the longer delay to being swamped. For certain classes of firearms, the pessimist in me thinks they're trying to dissuade the impulse or investment buyer.

Other than a desire to acquire a target/varmint 308 Rem 700, I think I'm ok with what I have now. Did the AR thing just before the first assault weapons ban in the 90s. Traded it off a couple years later. I'm really a bolt guy....

 

[Oldtrader3]

Me too, I am a bolt action and single shot guy. Still don't own a black rifle. I have one semi-auto .22LR, that is it.

 

[Kodiak]

Me too BT. Cain't help myself!

 

[Vince]

I'm not much of a semi auto guy but I do own a couple and believe any infringement on them, or limiting magazine capacity, to be a violation of the Constitution.
For the record I consider the 1934 NFA Act to also be a violation.

 

[Oldtrader3]

My neighbor was out at Wally World today and said that the shelves are bare of rifles and ammo. He was trying to find some rimfire, no luck!