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[sask boy]

I am not sure if this should be moved but if it should please do so.
I have made a friend from north of DrMike about 50 miles :wink: and he posted a photo that I am going to try and post off my Iphone.
But after seeing this photo I can understand why hunting has to be a way of life up in northern BC.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[DrMike]

So, up toward Fort Saint John or Charlie Lake? Yeah, hunting provides the meat for many people up here, Dan.

 

[DrMike]

This is the picture Dan wanted posted. A prime rib roast (2.575 kg or 5.7 lbs) for $93.64 (~$16.43/lb.).



'Course, hunting can provide meat at only $103/lb. :shock: This doesn't take into account rifle, optics, vehicle, etc.

 

[SJB358]

WOW, makes local WT hunting look like a bargain!

 

[Blkram]

But compared to a Stone's Sheep guided hunt where the cost of the meat can be $400/lb, this is a bargain!

 

[DrMike]

Yeah, and Save-On would be one of the more reasonable stores. Don't buy much meat at grocery stores, however. We do eat a lot of game.

 

[sask boy]

I really don't want to calculate that price per pound of the 5 Salmon I brought back from gerry's this past August .
Or the cost for the ingredients of my tag soup from my BC Moose hunt the September the year before :mrgreen:.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[elkhunternm]

This is the picture Dan wanted posted. A prime rib roast (2.575 kg or 5.7 lbs) for $93.64 (~$16.43/lb.).



'Course, hunting can provide meat at only $103/lb. :shock: This doesn't take into account rifle, optics, vehicle, etc.

WOW!

 

[Thankful Otter]

I have been made fun of by members of this forum and referred to as "poor indian trash", "stupid indian girl" and worse and much of the criticism comes from my not just being able to substance hunt but that I need to do so as I am too stupid to do anything else. As many here know I graduated from college and then chose to return to my roots, as to help others within our tribe both directly and indirectly.

I said all that, so that maybe those who prefer to look at my legal right to substance hunt and fish in a negative light will have a better understanding of why we do so, thanks to this thread started by Dan. Perhaps those who make fun of the fact that we use everything from a downed animal, skin, fat, bones, antlers, hides, etc, in one way or another is not just because it is a tradition to do so, but a way of life. Maybe not your way, but a way of life for a group of people just the same.

Everything is expensive for us, which is why hunting, fishing and trapping is not just a sport to us but a way of life.

My apologizes to Dan, for taking his thread a bit off center, but I saw an opportunity to respond to some here, in a tactful manner.

 

[DrMike]

Well said, Cheyenne. Such ugly prejudice says a great deal about those making such assertions. I'm under orders right now from my bride of fifty years to shoot a bear so she can have the fat to make some balm for rough and cracked feet; I'll use some for arthritic hands. I'll undoubtedly use some of the fat for pastries (far better than Crisco, I can assure you). Then, the meat is delicious, especially when the animal is taken from a patch of dandelions or even from early skunk cabbage. The hide will be sold to help defray part of the expense of hunting. The gut pile could easily serve as a draw for a wolf or two to provide pelts for the fur trade.

 

[Anonymous]

This is like a trip to the grocery for me...those of us who live at the long end of the logistics chain can attest to the very real costs associated with it.

Of course, I'd hunt even with a Costco in the backyard, who wants to eat mystery meat that you can't locate to a specific state?

I think it's kind of hilarious when folks insult subsistence hunters as being deficient in making a living... my usual crew includes 2 aerospace engineers, a civil engineer and I'm a project manager...and we're amateurs at it!

 

[SJB358]

Keep killing Cheyenne. To heck with the naysayers. They're too chicken to say it in the open nor would they likely say it in person.

 

[truck driver]

I know from growing up during the last century what it was like for my parents who went threw the great depression and had to raise a family the best way they could and most of the meat they ate came from wild game my father killed trapped or fish caught in traps or nets when I came along after WWII and got old enough to know what was going on in life I saw where very little meat was bought from a grocery store but was earned for wages helping farmers butcher and working on farms to help get the crops in and was paid off with smoked meat or a side or quarter of beef. By the time I was 10 years old I knew how to hunt and fish and also helped provide meat for the table from hunting and fishing up until I grew up married and left home, but I still carried meat home to my parents from my hunting and shared my kills with them. My children was feed from my skills as a hunter because I couldn't afford store bought meat for every meal till they grew up married and left home. I still hunt because it has been a way of life for me. I didn't hunt as much once the children grew up mainly because I was too busy working to pay off the college bills and other expenses and then health problems slowed me for a few years but the urge and need is still there.
I haven't bought meat from a grocery store in so long I would probably get sick from eating it since I buy what meat( beef,pork and chicken) I need from a local butcher shop that is locally grown and I know where it comes from and I don't pay the outrageous prices you see in a grocery store.

Those who have attacked Cheyenne for her way of life are complete $%^#@&% expletives.
And have no right condemning her for her way of life. They have a choice to not read her post and should do so if they find them distasteful but respect her for the right to express herself here as she does them with out attacking her.
I've ranted enough and if the Moderators wish please delete my post.

 

[Guy Miner]

Price of good beef can be high. Ask a rancher though, how much of that he is seeing. My farming and ranching buddies tell me that they are seeing very low prices for their crops and their cattle. Someone else is making the money.

Hunting also can be quite expensive... Particularly if travel and non-resident licenses are considered. But, if it's a local area hunt, with inexpensive license & tag fees, great.

I have to admit that I hunt for the experience. The wonderful meat is a terrific byproduct, and I take great pleasure in preparing and serving it. But I don't specifically hunt for the meat.


Take the every-other-year trip I do to Wyoming, lately for mule deer & antelope.. I bring home excellent meat from that hunt. but it's a minimum of an 1800 mile round trip, along with out-of-state license & tags... It's pretty expensive meat. But I LOVE that hunt!

And I'll second the guys who support Thankful Otter!

I like the fact that we have a young, educated, hunter of her caliber on our forum! She's in a position to offer a different take on hunting. And the reasons behind her hunting are different than for many of us. She also has some incredible opportunities! Honestly, I really enjoy her posts, and the little tidbits of info she drops here.

Many of us are more about the rifles, while she tends to be more about the hunt.

Regards, Guy

 

[truck driver]

Price of good beef can be high. Ask a rancher though, how much of that he is seeing. My farming and ranching buddies tell me that they are seeing very low prices for their crops and their cattle. Someone else is making the money.

Hunting also can be quite expensive... Particularly if travel and non-resident licenses are considered. But, if it's a local area hunt, with inexpensive license & tag fees, great.

I have to admit that I hunt for the experience. The wonderful meat is a terrific byproduct, and I take great pleasure in preparing and serving it. But I don't specifically hunt for the meat.


Take the every-other-year trip I do to Wyoming, lately for mule deer & antelope.. I bring home excellent meat from that hunt. but it's a minimum of an 1800 mile round trip, along with out-of-state license & tags... It's pretty expensive meat. But I LOVE that hunt!

And I'll second the guys who support Thankful Otter!

I like the fact that we have a young, educated, hunter of her caliber on our forum! She's in a position to offer a different take on hunting. And the reasons behind her hunting are different than for many of us. She also has some incredible opportunities! Honestly, I really enjoy her posts, and the little tidbits of info she drops here.

Many of us are more about the rifles, while she tends to be more about the hunt.

Regards, Guy

Guy,
I see zucchini,peppers,onion and maybe celery in the pan with the meat so what else is in the mix? I like recipes for wild game and such. I hunt for the for the experience any more also but do love the flavor of wild meat and fish.
The meat processor adds to the cost and sells off the hide and other parts and then the grocery store adds to that so by them time you see it at the store the the price is jacketed up so they can make a profit off it. The farmer has to work off volume to make a living.

 

[Blkram]

Well said Mike, Roger and Guy.

To you ignorant butt heads who have said such things to Cheyenne, you better hope that I never find out who you are, or meet you in person! Not only have you attacked someone undeservedly, but have pissed off a number of members on this forum that you definitely would think twice about saying such stupid things in front of in person.

Again, you are invited to apologize and improve your behaviour, or leave this forum! And do not come back!

Cheyenne has conducted herself in a gracious and admirable manner on this forum, and it is only because of her integrity and respectful nature that you have not been identified to the rest of us on this forum. You would not want to know what the traditional punishment in our culture would be for your transgressions!

 

[truck driver]

Or how about some of the Muslim tradition of stoning or removal of the tongue which is still done today. Though I'm not Muslim I do like their form of justice over our liberal society of a slap on the wrist and don't do it again.
Gil has made it easy for you, Just Leave and don't come back.

 

[gerry]

We eat a lot of deer, bear, grouse and fish and rarely ever buy any meat. Occasionally we will buy some pork, chicken some breakfast sausage but 95% of what we eat we shoot ourselves.

 

[swampghost]

I fully support Cheyenne. I'd be interested in learning more about ways to use the parts of an animal I typically "waste" and to be honest; we may could all learn something if she would care to share.

 

[sask boy]

Cheyenne, please never apologize on one of my threads, you have been bullied & insulted in my books the person or persons responsible should be Bull whipped & kicked off the Forum permanently :twisted:.
As Gil said someone would only have to say it once in front of me & someone would be sitting on the seat off their pants!! I know that I am getting old but what is that song? I may not be as good as I once was :wink:, but I am as good once as I ever was :twisted:!!
I have great respect for you Cheyenne & wish you would post more often!!

Blessings,
Dan