E-Tip performance at long range

[TackDriver284]

I have always used cup and core bullets for all my hunting needs. I once used the old Barnes bullets on a group test long ago ( without the polymer tip ) , and it never shot well in my 7 Mag so never continued the tests.

Now I see a polymer tip on those E- Tips and I like it and will it open easily for deer sized game if using modest speeds, let's say a 308 or 6.5 Creedmoor, at 300 yards? Does it need to be over 3000 fps to expand like cup and core bullets? I saw a few pictures of impact speeds at 2200 -2500 fps and not quite impressed with expansion diameter. I am new with all copper bullets, and curious to try them.

Reason I was curious is because I found a tiny piece of lead in my ground meat from a deer I shot last year with the 6.5 Creed using the 143 ELD-X.
( Working on a new load using 120 Ballistic Tips at the moment :twisted: )

 

[FOTIS]

You should be fine

 

[SJB358]

My thoughts on copper, any of them, is the under 30 calibers should be driven fast if you want quick kills on game, the over 30's have bigger frontal area and cavities and so well if they aren't driven as fast.

Not to be negative on them, but if you want hard hit deer, lead core bullets that expand like the ELD, BT's and similar are always going to whomp deer harder and kill faster. If you don't mind a little run then an ETip or similar are just fine too. The beauty of the mono's to me is they wont destroy meat with solid bone contact, so it doesn't hurt to pound a front leg bone. Just my thoughts though.

 

[DrMike]

My thoughts on copper, any of them, is the under 30 calibers should be driven fast if you want quick kills on game, the over 30's have bigger frontal area and cavities and so well if they aren't driven as fast.

Not to be negative on them, but if you want hard hit deer, lead core bullets that expand like the ELD, BT's and similar are always going to whomp deer harder and kill faster. If you don't mind a little run then an ETip or similar are just fine too. The beauty of the mono's to me is they wont destroy meat with solid bone contact, so it doesn't hurt to pound a front leg bone. Just my thoughts though.

Well said. An excellent summary of the impact of bullet design. I do like the monometal bullets, but they do want to be pushed to higher velocities.

 

[26NosFan]

They are perfect for the high shoulder shot, anchor them quick.

 

[TackDriver284]

My thoughts was, since 100% of the time, I stay off the shoulders, will it expand nicely if not hitting bone? I mostly do double lung shots with nice exits on the offside to preserve meat from being wasted or bloodshot. I guess I may have to stick with cup and core for deer sized game except if going for nilgai or an oryx one of these days.

 

[jimbires]

if you're using a meat processor , that might not have been your meat , or lead from your bullet .