extremely fragmentable bullets

[corbin9191]

I was wondering if anyone knows what the best bullet is for a 270 win that will deliver explosive rounds on impact. The load will be used for varmits, and I am trying to keep the lighter bullets because I already have a good big game rifle and just want to turn the 270 into the varmit gun now. thank you.

 

[bullet]

130gr Ballistic Tips or Sierra 130gr Game King

 

[Guy Miner]

Sierra makes a 90 grain hollowpoint varmint bullet for the .270... That ought to do it! :grin:

 

[JD338]

Sierra makes a 90 grain hollowpoint varmint bullet for the .270... That ought to do it! :grin:

+1

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

130 Bt's won't do. They are tough.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Sierra's +2
I've used the 90gr Sierra's with a max load of both H4895. I was getting around 3500fps out of a 22" bbl. They really LAUNCH the prairie dogs, sometimes 25-30 feet into the air. :grin:

 

[YoteSmoker]

90 grain hornady v-max

 

[FOTIS]

Sierra's +2
I've used the 90gr Sierra's with a max load of both H4895. I was getting around 3500fps out of a 22" bbl. They really LAUNCH the prairie dogs, sometimes 25-30 feet into the air. :grin:

your load?

 

[corbin9191]

130 are a little to heavy for just shooting coyotes and prarie dogs. If you dont mind me asking what load are you using to put those 90 grain bullets at that speed?

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 90, Sierra HP 1800
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch or 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

96 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 4895 98.0 58.1 3.77 3640 100.0 64000 12560 0.866 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 103.1 67.3 4.36 3638 97.1 64000 13653 0.881 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 100.5 65.1 4.22 3636 96.2 64000 13661 0.883 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 103.0 64.5 4.18 3630 98.4 64000 13502 0.890 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 102.3 62.7 4.06 3624 99.4 64000 13071 0.883 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 99.2 62.8 4.07 3623 99.4 64000 13051 0.883 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 105.0 64.0 4.15 3610 97.1 61734 13467 0.887 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 96.7 63.1 4.09 3610 96.9 64000 13366 0.890 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 96.7 59.2 3.84 3609 99.1 64000 12960 0.888 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 96.7 59.2 3.84 3609 99.1 64000 12960 0.888 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 96.7 59.2 3.84 3609 99.1 64000 12960 0.888 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 97.1 59.5 3.86 3607 99.4 64000 12888 0.890 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 96.5 55.3 3.58 3601 100.0 64000 11874 0.887 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 91.3 61.0 3.95 3598 99.9 64000 12697 0.893 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 105.0 63.6 4.12 3596 98.2 61748 13304 0.900 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 105.0 66.4 4.30 3595 93.9 64000 13288 0.877 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 98.5 61.0 3.95 3595 99.8 64000 12719 0.901 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 63.6 4.12 3595 98.2 61688 13297 0.900 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 98.6 59.4 3.85 3593 99.4 64000 12511 0.875 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 103.6 61.0 3.95 3588 99.7 64000 12629 0.900 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 97.8 61.2 3.97 3586 98.2 64000 12913 0.893 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 100.7 60.4 3.91 3582 99.6 64000 12591 0.895 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 94.2 59.6 3.86 3580 99.4 64000 12528 0.885 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 94.3 61.5 3.99 3576 98.2 64000 12733 0.885 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 90.9 58.1 3.77 3576 99.9 64000 12284 0.885 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 90.2 55.6 3.60 3575 99.9 64000 12201 0.882 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 90.3 58.0 3.76 3575 99.9 64000 12262 0.885 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 93.5 59.0 3.83 3572 100.0 64000 12053 0.901 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 99.3 58.8 3.81 3569 100.0 64000 11928 0.880 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 102.9 59.0 3.82 3568 100.0 64000 12048 0.918 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 99.0 58.9 3.82 3567 99.0 64000 12417 0.878 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 99.3 58.9 3.82 3567 99.0 64000 12417 0.878 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 100.0 57.9 3.75 3564 99.2 64000 12287 0.882 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 90.2 53.7 3.48 3561 100.0 64000 11517 0.880 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 92.4 60.9 3.95 3559 99.4 64000 12223 0.886 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 90.8 56.8 3.68 3557 99.9 64000 12153 0.896 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 94.2 56.8 3.68 3556 100.0 64000 11748 0.891 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 96.0 55.6 3.60 3555 100.0 64000 11665 0.920 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 96.6 57.1 3.70 3547 99.9 64000 12014 0.896 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 96.3 59.6 3.86 3545 100.0 64000 11795 0.892 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 102.6 61.7 4.00 3544 95.5 64000 12651 0.889 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 99.4 61.7 4.00 3544 95.5 64000 12641 0.889 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 93.0 54.1 3.51 3539 100.0 64000 11656 0.901 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 105.0 64.0 4.15 3535 99.7 55640 13088 0.940 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 102.1 60.1 3.89 3531 99.9 64000 11782 0.887 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 102.5 56.9 3.69 3524 100.0 64000 11082 0.896 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 91.5 55.2 3.58 3522 100.0 64000 11522 0.881 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 90.0 56.2 3.64 3516 100.0 64000 11146 0.885 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 93.6 56.7 3.67 3512 99.6 64000 11599 0.879 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 105.0 60.7 3.93 3508 99.9 62154 11783 0.904 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 92.7 56.8 3.68 3506 99.6 64000 11542 0.878 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 100.2 63.4 4.11 3482 95.3 64000 11889 0.892 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 94.3 56.5 3.66 3479 100.0 64000 10864 0.896 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 96.2 54.0 3.50 3469 100.0 64000 10424 0.885 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 105.0 64.3 4.17 3465 92.0 56949 12826 0.925 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 64.3 4.17 3465 92.0 56949 12826 0.925 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 90.9 52.0 3.37 3456 100.0 64000 10314 0.888 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 105.0 61.5 3.99 3439 96.7 53592 12946 0.976
ADI AR 2209 105.0 64.0 4.15 3428 91.0 54252 12842 0.940
Rottweil R904 105.0 63.4 4.11 3404 90.3 55906 12295 0.936 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 64.3 4.17 3403 90.9 52787 12843 0.958
Norma MRP 105.0 67.1 4.35 3390 91.3 48879 13642 0.995
IMR 4350 105.0 61.6 3.99 3382 90.0 53801 12392 0.954
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 64.3 4.17 3368 90.5 51565 12629 0.970
Somchem S385 105.0 65.0 4.21 3353 92.2 51900 12456 0.984
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 66.1 4.28 3348 86.8 49891 12936 0.979
ADI AR 2213 105.0 65.0 4.21 3306 86.1 48780 12603 0.988
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 65.7 4.26 3303 85.2 46822 13020 1.014
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 65.0 4.21 3287 88.2 46088 12843 1.024
Raufoss RA15 105.0 65.0 4.21 3287 88.2 46088 12843 1.024
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 65.0 4.21 3287 88.2 46088 12843 1.024
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 65.0 4.21 3275 85.5 49553 11964 0.986
IMR 4831 105.0 61.6 3.99 3270 93.0 46582 12266 1.031
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 68.4 4.43 3253 82.5 45706 12752 1.032
Rottweil R905 105.0 63.8 4.14 3202 84.5 44526 12055 1.040
Winchester WXR 105.0 63.6 4.12 3179 85.9 42121 12340 1.069
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 61.7 4.00 3139 85.8 44817 11065 1.039
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 63.6 4.12 3136 88.0 43342 11308 1.058
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 68.7 4.45 3133 82.7 42141 12177 1.066
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 68.7 4.45 3125 82.3 41915 12138 1.069
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 62.5 4.05 3121 82.5 43176 11285 1.052
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.0 68.5 4.44 3120 82.2 41679 12118 1.072
IMR 7828 105.0 62.5 4.05 3119 82.0 41046 11858 1.074
ADI AP 2214 105.0 66.8 4.33 3095 81.6 42337 11551 1.062
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 64.0 4.15 3081 87.8 38141 12210 1.118
Accurate 3100 105.0 60.8 3.94 2984 87.8 36683 11092 1.171
Norma MRP 2 105.0 64.3 4.17 2935 78.4 34001 11424 1.181
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 63.6 4.12 2889 76.5 35383 10474 1.153
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 67.8 4.40 2859 68.0 33313 11024 1.197

 

[YoteSmoker]

The sierra varminter isnt a bad bullet but the v-max has much better bc because it is sleeker design.

 

[FOTIS]

The sierra varminter isnt a bad bullet but the v-max has much better bc because it is sleeker design.

ok then

Cartridge : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .277, 110, Hornady V-MAX 22720
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch or 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

106 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hodgdon H4350 103.2 60.1 3.90 3367 98.9 64000 13350 0.944 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 100.3 62.6 4.05 3358 98.6 64000 13464 0.953 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 97.8 60.6 3.92 3355 97.9 64000 13478 0.955 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 105.0 61.1 3.96 3353 100.0 62278 12750 0.969 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 103.1 59.7 3.87 3348 99.6 64000 13092 0.958 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 103.2 59.8 3.87 3347 99.6 64000 13088 0.958 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 100.2 59.9 3.88 3344 99.5 64000 13210 0.963 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 95.3 54.0 3.50 3334 100.0 64000 12038 0.939 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 99.4 58.2 3.77 3332 99.9 64000 12683 0.956 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 96.4 58.3 3.78 3331 99.9 64000 12664 0.956 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 94.0 58.7 3.80 3328 98.4 64000 13143 0.962 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 102.3 61.9 4.01 3324 96.0 64000 13233 0.949 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 93.9 55.0 3.56 3315 99.8 64000 12559 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 93.9 55.0 3.56 3315 99.8 64000 12559 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 93.9 55.0 3.56 3315 99.8 64000 12559 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 94.4 55.3 3.58 3313 100.0 64000 12463 0.963 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 61.5 3.98 3300 95.7 62553 13152 0.958 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 105.0 61.5 3.98 3300 95.7 62553 13152 0.958 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 95.6 56.6 3.67 3300 100.0 64000 12254 0.975 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 95.2 56.9 3.69 3300 99.3 64000 12614 0.965 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 95.9 55.2 3.58 3300 99.9 64000 12113 0.948 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 100.7 56.6 3.67 3295 100.0 64000 12175 0.975 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 91.8 57.2 3.71 3292 99.3 64000 12452 0.957 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 97.9 56.1 3.63 3289 100.0 64000 12163 0.969 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 91.7 55.4 3.59 3288 99.9 64000 12134 0.958 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 93.5 51.2 3.32 3284 100.0 64000 11350 0.964 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 96.4 54.8 3.55 3277 99.8 64000 12072 0.951 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 96.7 54.8 3.55 3277 99.8 64000 12072 0.951 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 105.0 58.8 3.81 3276 99.2 59790 12957 1.004 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 97.3 53.8 3.49 3272 99.9 64000 11902 0.955 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 105.0 61.1 3.96 3271 95.1 59390 13225 0.974 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 90.8 54.8 3.55 3271 100.0 64000 11556 0.976 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 100.0 57.5 3.72 3270 97.3 64000 12501 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 96.9 57.5 3.73 3269 97.3 64000 12491 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 96.5 54.7 3.54 3269 100.0 64000 11464 0.954 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 99.8 54.6 3.54 3264 100.0 64000 11543 0.993 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 105.0 64.2 4.16 3259 95.8 54188 14113 1.023
Norma 202 91.5 52.7 3.41 3251 100.0 64000 11275 0.966 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 93.9 53.0 3.44 3250 100.0 64000 11536 0.971 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 61.5 3.98 3248 95.0 57947 13231 0.992 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 93.7 55.4 3.59 3247 100.0 64000 11379 0.966 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 103.1 56.9 3.69 3245 100.0 64000 11402 0.967 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 92.9 51.5 3.33 3243 100.0 64000 11144 0.996 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 99.4 55.9 3.62 3241 100.0 64000 11361 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 105.0 60.6 3.93 3240 94.2 61171 12650 0.971 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 90.3 50.2 3.25 3233 100.0 64000 11145 0.977 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 91.1 52.8 3.42 3221 100.0 64000 11199 0.953 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 105.0 58.9 3.82 3220 94.0 58842 12749 0.989 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 63.2 4.09 3218 91.9 54798 13533 1.010
ADI AR 2206H 90.3 52.9 3.43 3216 100.0 64000 11158 0.952 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 99.5 52.8 3.42 3215 100.0 64000 10624 0.973 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 61.5 3.98 3215 94.6 56592 13031 1.004 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 97.8 59.1 3.83 3214 97.1 64000 11771 0.965 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 105.0 62.1 4.03 3202 96.0 57391 12765 1.015 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 91.7 52.5 3.40 3180 100.0 64000 10444 0.971 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 62.8 4.07 3177 90.5 51621 13675 1.045
ADI AR 2213 105.0 62.1 4.03 3173 91.3 53416 13210 1.021
Vihtavuori N133 93.5 50.1 3.25 3162 100.0 64000 9995 0.962 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 105.0 62.1 4.03 3157 93.1 50956 13388 1.054
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 62.1 4.03 3157 93.1 50956 13388 1.054
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 62.1 4.03 3157 93.1 50956 13388 1.054
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 65.4 4.24 3139 88.1 50589 13490 1.060
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 62.1 4.03 3135 90.3 54278 12505 1.020
IMR 4831 105.0 58.9 3.82 3124 96.8 51749 12529 1.062
Rottweil R905 105.0 61.0 3.95 3076 89.7 49188 12645 1.072
Winchester WXR 105.0 60.8 3.94 3058 91.2 46542 12946 1.101
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 65.6 4.25 3039 89.1 46514 12995 1.094
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 65.6 4.25 3032 88.8 46256 12968 1.097
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.0 65.5 4.24 3026 88.6 45998 12952 1.100
IMR 7828 105.0 59.7 3.87 3006 88.0 45082 12572 1.108
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 60.8 3.94 3004 92.8 47857 11749 1.091
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 58.9 3.82 2998 90.5 49127 11518 1.077
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 59.7 3.87 2992 87.7 47302 11876 1.088
ADI AP 2214 105.0 63.8 4.14 2991 87.9 46383 12339 1.094
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 61.1 3.96 2978 93.7 42002 12869 1.149
Accurate 3100 105.0 58.1 3.77 2875 93.0 41270 11548 1.199
Norma MRP 2 105.0 61.5 3.98 2849 85.1 37665 12295 1.220
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 60.8 3.94 2796 83.5 38754 11344 1.193
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 64.8 4.20 2790 75.4 36706 12184 1.234
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 61.8 4.01 2683 83.2 33170 11524 1.282
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 60.8 3.94 2643 75.2 34642 10250 1.279
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 65.5 4.24 2634 67.4 35805 10105 1.252
ADI AR 2218 105.0 65.5 4.24 2598 66.3 33608 10510 1.284
Hodgdon H870 105.0 63.5 4.11 2538 71.3 29458 10597 1.362
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 65.5 4.24 2509 68.0 30292 9991 1.349
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 62.4 4.04 2436 59.0 29187 9029 1.368
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 62.8 4.07 2367 65.8 26142 9010 1.439
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 62.8 4.07 2298 62.2 24749 8534 1.473
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 66.2 4.29 2277 59.3 24629 8494 1.475
Accurate 8700 105.0 63.0 4.08 2259 60.5 24418 8163 1.480
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 60.1 3.90 2163 42.5 24501 6280 1.479
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 60.1 3.90 2134 45.6 22734 6573 1.525
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 60.1 3.90 1550 21.1 13202 3072 1.929

 

[Powerstroke]

I've had good luck with both mentioned in numerous calibers.....The Sierra's pretty much always have seen explosive results.
The V-max's I like.. appear for what I've done a little more accurate than the varmiters in the green boxes, but.................I haven't always seen the same results.....one time pass through on yotes, next time will almost tear one in half....

 

[old #7]

90 gr bullet out of the 270.
Sounds like fun.
I guess I have something to load this week end :grin:

 

[corbin9191]

Thank you for all of your input it really helps, and Thank you POP for running those loads. After I get to the store and get done unpacking(moved to Montana) I will load some up and let you all know what the results are. Thanks again

 

[FOTIS]

Cool!

BTW I started my boy on the 90 gr HP in his 270 win and reduced loads, Fun as heck!

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Here's my old load Pop

30.06 Army brass necked down to .270 Win
CCI 250 Primers
52gr H4895
90gr Sierra
Average Velocity of 3518 out of a 22" barrel.

 

[FOTIS]

smoking!