Guide gun plan

[orchemo]

Had a Marlin 45-70 guide gun for years. Was a nice rifle, but it but was never quite right. Tried 2.5 X scout scope, tried 2-7 rifle scope, already had XS sights, but never was all
I wanted it to be .

Found a local deal on another guide gun and bought it. Used this rifle
as a base and pieced together what I think will be a great package

1. Winged Wild West peep sight from new rifle. Better view in my opinion than the XS peep sight on the rifle I had.
2. XS scout rail from my guide gun
3. Burris FastFire mounts on the scout rail. Really fast sight acquisition
4. Leupold 1.5-5 Scout scope with Firedot reticle. Mounted on Warne quick release rings. Plenty of magnification for my needs.
5. Wild West trigger for a clean, crisp trigger.

Have some 405 gr cast bullets with RL-7 and should be a happy camper

 

[salmonchaser]

I really like the guide gun for dragging through Alaska’s alders. I have found both the Delta point and the vortex venom to be perfectly suited to CQB in the alders and indestructible.
I like the way yours is set up.


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[Thebear_78]

Looks like a good setup! I had one for several years until I met someone who needed it more than I did. Really great all around thumpers.

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[Guy Miner]

Excellent!

Yours too TheBear_78.

I'd think the big bore lever action rifles have got to be a reasonable solution to the bear-defense problem.

Guy

 

[Charlie-NY]

Don't be afraid to try jacketed bullets too. I shot many sub 1" groups (@100yds) with Barnes 300 TSX, Speer 400JFN and Swift 350 A-Frame bullets. None of the hard cast bullets shot as well in my 1895 SBL. Good luck.

 

[Guy Miner]

Those 350 grain Swift A-Frame bullets look awesome. I tested them quite a few years ago and was seriously impressed with the penetration and expansion.

Sorry, Photobucket and I have a disagreement, so those old photos are gone. I think I might still have the bullet here someplace, from that 2011 test.

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It was a beautiful mushroom!

Guy

 

[orchemo]

How do the Nosler BT to in the 45-70? Similar to the older partitions?

 

[Charlie-NY]

Swift 350.JPG[/attachment]Here is what the 350 Swift A-Frame bullet is capable of in my 1895.

 

[DrMike]

Well, the accuracy is certainly there with that load. Fine groups, Charlie.

 

[Charlie-NY]

The only problem I see with the 350 A-Frame, which is specifically engineer for the 45-70, is that you'll need an impact velocity of 1,800 ft/sec (or more) to get a decent mushroom. Considering that the bullet has the flight characteristics of a brick, you need to achieve a muzzle velocity of about 2,000 ft/sec to get an impact velocity closer to 1,800 ft/sec.

However, a few knowledgeable Marlin shooters convinced me that my load (2,000 ft/sec) was excessive and would cause unacceptable wear & possible damage if I continued to shoot it. Despite the exceptional accuracy of this load I dropped the charge back. I have yet to test the reduced load.

The A-Frame should have been designed with a softer nose considering the velocity limitations of the 45-70.

This would be a perfect time for Nosler to bring out a 400gr Partition specifically designed for the 45-70. It would be a "do all", "end all" bullet.