Help! ID vintage bolt rifle

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Dec 16, 2009
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Previewed an a live auction today and found a very interesting vintage bolt rifle. It is listed as a mauser 30 cal, but it is an odd duck.

It is a mauser type action... crf, dual front lugs, cocks on opening, stripper clip guide, 3 pos wing safety but it is not a mauser 98. Comparing it with another mauser 98, the extractor is in a slightly different position on the bolt, and there is a 3rd rear locking lug that cams into the front of the rear receiver bridge like on an M17.

The stock appears original, showing quite a patina, and a barrel band is recessed into it with a sling swivel stud protruding below the schnabel forend. The strangest feature is where one would find the bolt release on a Mauser, there is located a toggle flap that rotates vertically 90 degrees and is marked in plain english "off" and "on". It fits into an ornately machined protuberance of the reciever forging that was definately purpose-built for this device. The cocking piece looks very much like a springfield cocking piece. The rifle is completely unmarked except for a captial "P" in front of the receiver ring. Bolt has no military proofs or serial numbers. It is fitted with an ancient 3/4" tube scope on a pachmyr tipp-off side mount.

At first I thought it might be a Rem model 30, but from pictures I looked at the safety is wrong and the Md 30 used a conventional mauser bolt release and the bolt is "winchester style", not M17 doglegged.

Any help would be appreciated. I'll try to look tomorrow morning, even if I don't hear by then, I might try to buy it just because it's so unique.
 
Sounds more like an 03-A3 Springfield than a Mauser based on the description, but I might be off. Hard to guess without seeing the action. Please post a link or pics.
 
YoteSmoker":2uxvduhd said:
Sounds more like an 03-A3 Springfield than a Mauser based on the description, but I might be off. Hard to guess without seeing the action. Please post a link or pics.
def. not a sprgfld. The only pics available are from the wrong side, it just looks like a mauser in them. The salient features are not highlighted. If I end up buying it I guess I'll have more.
 
Sold for $420 so either it was valuable by ittself or the odd Pachmyr mount was valuable. Must have been more than just a springfield sporter. Usually they have some vestige of military proofs on the bolt parts. I forgot about the older ones with the magazine cutoff so it might have been loosely springfield based. Guess I'll never know.

My 2 rifles sold for more than they were worth, so it was still a good auction!
 
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