Hi POP - QL Request

[BearClan]

Hi Pop,

Just finished reading a recent QL request and noticed RL17 listed as one of the powders with data - AWESOME - this powder is not even available in Canada yet. Fortunately, it will be in mid-May (according to a Canadian Alliant Powder distributor) and unfortunately, t is first come first serve (you can bet I will be calling this distributor often).

In anycase, can you please provide me with load data for a 180 Grain Barnes TSX and 180 Grain Nosler ETip
and
165 Grain Hornady SST (really for GMX bullet, but apparently, you can use the same data as the SST) using this supposedly WONDER POWDER (i.e., Reloader 17). Thanks in advance

 

[FOTIS]

Hi Pop,

Just finished reading a recent QL request and noticed RL17 listed as one of the powders with data - AWESOME - this powder is not even available in Canada yet. Fortunately, it will be in mid-May (according to a Canadian Alliant Powder distributor) and unfortunately, t is first come first serve (you can bet I will be calling this distributor often).

In any case, can you please provide me with load data for a 180 Grain Barnes TSX and 180 Grain Nosler ETip
and
165 Grain Hornady SST (really for GMX bullet, but apparently, you can use the same data as the SST) using this supposedly WONDER POWDER (i.e., Reloader 17). Thanks in advance

Only if you provide a chambering! This is a prerequisite to running a simulation.:lol: :wink:

BTW according to some experts the magic factor has not been factored in QL yet. Meaning that predictions do not mirror the phenomenal results people are bragging about.

 

[BearClan]

Sorry POP. Excuse my stupidity - I am using a .300 WSM.

 

[FOTIS]

Hi Pop,

Just finished reading a recent QL request and noticed RL17 listed as one of the powders with data - AWESOME - this powder is not even available in Canada yet. Fortunately, it will be in mid-May (according to a Canadian Alliant Powder distributor) and unfortunately, t is first come first serve (you can bet I will be calling this distributor often).

In anycase, can you please provide me with load data for a 180 Grain Barnes TSX and 180 Grain Nosler ETip
and
165 Grain Hornady SST (really for GMX bullet, but apparently, you can use the same data as the SST) using this supposedly WONDER POWDER (i.e., Reloader 17). Thanks in advance

Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 165, Hornady SST InterLock 30452
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 81 58.50 2798 2868 43294 10002 99.2 1.295
-09.0 82 59.15 2826 2926 44631 10086 99.4 1.277
-08.0 83 59.80 2854 2985 46010 10166 99.6 1.259
-07.0 84 60.45 2882 3043 47430 10241 99.7 1.242
-06.0 85 61.10 2910 3102 48892 10312 99.8 1.225
-05.0 86 61.75 2938 3162 50401 10378 99.9 1.208
-04.0 87 62.40 2965 3221 51954 10439 100.0 1.191
-03.0 88 63.05 2992 3281 53559 10496 100.0 1.175
-02.0 88 63.70 3020 3341 55211 10548 100.0 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 89 64.35 3047 3401 56915 10599 100.0 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 90 65.00 3074 3461 58672 10649 100.0 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 91 65.65 3100 3522 60484 10699 100.0 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 92 66.30 3127 3583 62355 10747 100.0 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 93 66.95 3154 3644 64285 10796 100.0 1.084 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 94 67.60 3180 3705 66278 10843 100.0 1.070 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 95 68.25 3206 3766 68335 10890 100.0 1.056 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 90 65.00 3178 3699 69780 10282 100.0 1.053 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 90 65.00 2917 3118 48467 10873 98.1 1.226




Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler E-Tip preliminary
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 81 54.00 2672 2854 44752 9239 99.6 1.321
-09.0 82 54.60 2698 2910 46073 9311 99.7 1.307
-08.0 83 55.20 2724 2965 47435 9380 99.8 1.292
-07.0 84 55.80 2749 3021 48838 9444 99.9 1.278
-06.0 85 56.40 2775 3078 50283 9505 100.0 1.263
-05.0 86 57.00 2800 3134 51770 9561 100.0 1.249
-04.0 87 57.60 2826 3191 53304 9614 100.0 1.233
-03.0 88 58.20 2851 3248 54884 9664 100.0 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 89 58.80 2876 3305 56513 9714 100.0 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 89 59.40 2901 3363 58193 9764 100.0 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 90 60.00 2925 3420 59925 9813 100.0 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 91 60.60 2950 3478 61710 9861 100.0 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 92 61.20 2974 3536 63551 9908 100.0 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 93 61.80 2999 3595 65451 9955 100.0 1.126 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 94 62.40 3023 3653 67411 10001 100.0 1.111 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 95 63.00 3048 3712 69432 10047 100.0 1.097 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 90 60.00 3017 3639 70935 9476 100.0 1.096 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 90 60.00 2786 3102 49808 10090 98.6 1.264





Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 180, Barnes 'TSX'BT 30846
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 80 54.00 2652 2811 43444 9289 99.5 1.336
-09.0 81 54.60 2678 2866 44707 9364 99.6 1.321
-08.0 82 55.20 2703 2920 46008 9436 99.8 1.307
-07.0 83 55.80 2728 2975 47345 9504 99.9 1.293
-06.0 83 56.40 2754 3031 48725 9568 99.9 1.278
-05.0 84 57.00 2779 3086 50143 9629 100.0 1.264
-04.0 85 57.60 2804 3142 51605 9685 100.0 1.251
-03.0 86 58.20 2829 3198 53108 9738 100.0 1.235
-02.0 87 58.80 2854 3255 54660 9789 100.0 1.219
-01.0 88 59.40 2878 3311 56248 9840 100.0 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 89 60.00 2903 3368 57900 9890 100.0 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 90 60.60 2927 3425 59593 9940 100.0 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 91 61.20 2952 3482 61339 9989 100.0 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 91 61.80 2976 3539 63140 10037 100.0 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 92 62.40 3000 3597 64993 10085 100.0 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 93 63.00 3024 3655 66909 10132 100.0 1.115 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 89 60.00 2996 3588 68488 9553 100.0 1.112 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 89 60.00 2762 3050 48162 10139 98.4 1.280



Like I said some have indeed gotten better results. We might just have to wait for the next version of QL to update powder performance.

 

[BearClan]

Thanks POP - it is an excellect service you provide to the members of this forum.