Neck bushing sizer dies

[Wincheringen]

So I'm looking for a neck sizer for my .22-250. I was looking for a RCBS Competition Neck sizer, but it doesn't appear that they make them.

I'm now looking at the RCBS Gold Medal Match Neck Bushing Sizer (10635). These don't come with the bushings and I'm not sure which ones to buy.

Does anybody have any experience with these or another recommendation?

Thanks!

 

[257 Ackley]

Redding and Forster make good bushing dies. The Forster dies come with 3 common bushings used for the caliber you are purchasing. Redding S-type dies do not come with bushings. Match them up with a micro top seating die and you have the ability to make match grade loads.

Whiddon also makes good bushing dies that will use either Redding or Forster bushings.

 

[Wincheringen]

So on the bushings, I measured my current reloads at .251", new factory ammo at .251", and once fired at .254". Which bushing should I get?

 

[jimbires]

So on the bushings, I measured my current reloads at .251", new factory ammo at .251", and once fired at .254". Which bushing should I get?

I'm assuming your loaded round measures .251 . if so you would want a .249 bushing . this should give you .002 neck tension . this can vary do to the amount you are sizing the brass case , and brass hardness . with you only going .003 I think you'll be fine , until they need annealed .


.254 would be the size of your fired , unsized brass , right ?

here is a link on this .

http://www.redding-reloading.com/tech-l ... -selection

 

[Charlie-NY]

Good information above and on the link. You should realize, however, that brass neck thickness can vary from one manufacturer to another or from lot-to-lot occasionally. This could present a problem when you have chosen a bushing based on the dimensions of the loaded round you are using "at the moment".

An example would be if you switched to a case that had .002" thinner necks and used the same bushing. The result would be a significant lack of neck tension or even a loaded round that would allow the bullet to drop down to the powder column. Conversely, cases with thicker necks would receive more sizing than needed and bullets that are harder to seat than normal, thus working the brass more than is desirable.

Sooner or later you will need more than one bushing size for any given application. Some shooters determine what size they need initially and buy an additional bushing larger & smaller just to have the bases covered. This may not be too cost effective but eventually you will build a nice inventory of bushings that can be interchanged between several different dies of the same manufacture.

 

[woods]

So I'm looking for a neck sizer for my .22-250. I was looking for a RCBS Competition Neck sizer, but it doesn't appear that they make them.

I'm now looking at the RCBS Gold Medal Match Neck Bushing Sizer (10635). These don't come with the bushings and I'm not sure which ones to buy.

Does anybody have any experience with these or another recommendation?

Thanks!

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?usersearc ... hscope=all


Don't have any experience with them, always went with Redding. Their die is twice the price but has a micrometer head which is not necessary (IMO) nor is it necessary to get the tungsten carbide
bushings

If you get the RCBS then at least you would have a jump start on the purchase price of an outside neck turner which is necessary to get the best results with bushing neck sizers (as long as you don't use the expander that comes with the die)

 

[257 Ackley]

So on the bushings, I measured my current reloads at .251", new factory ammo at .251", and once fired at .254". Which bushing should I get?

What brand of brass are you using? Have you measured neck thickness on a wide selection of this brass? Lapua and Norma make the most consistent brass, but there is still a need to turn the necks if you want uniform neck tension on all cartridges. Most serious match shooters turn their necks even if they are shooting a "no-turn" chamber. As mentioned before, buy the Forster bushing die that comes with the 3 most common bushings needed and try them all with the case and bullet you want to shoot. As Woods mentioned, get rid of the expander so the brass doesn't get "worked" as much. If you have a load (primer, powder, bullet seating depth recipe that works well presently, try that recipe with each of the bushings. Your results will tell you what neck tension is best (at least until you need to anneal the brass) :roll: .

You are venturing down a path that gives you the opportunity to buy all kinds of neat do-dads in the search for one-hole Nirvana :lol: . A spare bushing or two will be the least of your expenses.

 

[Wincheringen]

I picked up the Redding Type S neck sizer and bushings in .248, .249, & .250 diameter along with 100 pieces of Norma brass. I have been using Winchester brass with this load. Brownells had everything in stock. I also got one for my 6.5 Creedmoor.

I intend to test things out the way the rifle is currently configured, a Ruger Predator with a 12 twist barrel. Ultimately this rifle will have a Lilja 8 twist barrel installed for shooting heavy bullets in 22-250. It is currently a half inch shooter, which is adequate.

I measured 40 pieces of the Win brass that I had from the batch and neck thickness all measure .013-.016. I intend to use the Norma brass so I'll have to check it when I get it all. Hopefully I don't have to turn it much.

Woods, the die I was looking at was the same price as the Redding.

 

[woods]

Woods, the die I was looking at was the same price as the Redding.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/159523 ... -remington

$54.99

I was thinking of the Redding Competition bushing neck sizer

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/546034 ... -remington

$103.99

which supports the case for alignment with the bushing

 

[Guy Miner]

I use Wilson neck-sizing dies for three different cartridges; the .204 Ruger, .25-06 Rem, and the .308 Win. They work great! With the .308 Win, I use several different makes of brass, and have to change the bushing accordingly.





However, those dies require the use of an arbor press, as they won't work in a standard handloading press. Good stuff though, good stuff.



Regards, Guy

 

[Wincheringen]

I saw the Wilson dies but I didn't want to buy another press. I think the Redding dies will accomplish what I'm trying to do for now. Hopefully they come with some good directions.

 

[Guy Miner]

Redding makes great dies. I use some of theirs as well, just not with bushings.

I think you're going to enjoy messing with the bushings a bit, to get the exact amount of neck tension that works for you and your rifle. It's another interesting aspect of a fascinating hobby.

Regards, Guy

 

[Wincheringen]

Well, the brown truck showed up late today with some presents from Brownell's. The long range forecast shows the weather improving next week from this -5 unfunness. Hopefully I'll get to try some of this out, although I'll have to full length it all for the first loading, I'm thinking about just using a start load and some of the cheap Varmageddon bullets I have before I start working on a true match load.