Need a QL for 270wsm-140 AB and r17

rmarshall

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Mar 10, 2010
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Can anyone help with this? I have a Chance to get done R17 in a 5lb. Is this good powder? I love shooting r19. I have 26" barrel on my short mag. Thanks
 
Cartridge : .270 WSM
Bullet : .277, 140, Nosler AccuBond 54765
Useable Case Capaci: 71.442 grain H2O = 4.639 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 70 48.56 2651 2185 33021 9598 99.4 1.593
-18.0 72 49.77 2709 2282 35196 9780 99.7 1.555
-16.0 74 50.99 2767 2381 37509 9941 99.9 1.514
-14.0 76 52.20 2825 2480 39969 10080 100.0 1.472
-12.0 77 53.42 2881 2580 42587 10208 100.0 1.429
-10.0 79 54.63 2936 2680 45372 10334 100.0 1.389
-08.0 81 55.84 2991 2781 48309 10457 100.0 1.350
-06.0 83 57.06 3045 2883 51401 10578 100.0 1.313
-04.0 84 58.27 3099 2985 54670 10696 100.0 1.277 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 86 59.49 3151 3087 58130 10812 100.0 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 88 60.70 3204 3190 61792 10925 100.0 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 90 61.91 3255 3294 65669 11035 100.0 1.178 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 91 63.13 3307 3399 69774 11142 100.0 1.148 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 93 64.34 3358 3505 74125 11247 100.0 1.118 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 95 65.56 3408 3611 78736 11348 100.0 1.090 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 97 66.77 3459 3719 83628 11446 100.0 1.063 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 88 60.70 3295 3375 73726 10605 100.0 1.129 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 88 60.70 3065 2920 49845 11392 100.0 1.320


RL17 has its place in anyone's powder magazine. I would prefer more case fill, but this will assuredly work.

Cartridge : .270 WSM
Bullet : .277, 140, Nosler AccuBond 54765
Useable Case Capaci: 71.442 grain H2O = 4.639 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

31 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570 109.5 76.1 4.93 3365 97.1 63000 14192 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 109.8 79.4 5.15 3347 97.4 63000 13994 1.189 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 108.6 71.5 4.64 3299 99.7 63000 12816 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 100.4 67.5 4.38 3295 99.2 63000 12848 1.193 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 98.5 67.7 4.39 3292 100.0 63000 12384 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 106.4 69.7 4.52 3291 100.0 63000 11897 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 100.6 70.4 4.56 3285 98.4 63000 12955 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 99.2 67.1 4.35 3284 99.5 63000 12432 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 104.9 67.1 4.35 3284 99.5 63000 12432 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 100.6 67.0 4.34 3266 99.9 63000 12287 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 103.3 67.3 4.36 3265 99.9 63000 12307 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 109.5 71.3 4.62 3263 99.6 63000 12111 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 100.4 72.0 4.67 3243 100.0 63000 11684 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 72.8 4.72 3227 100.0 56283 12441 1.244 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 97.7 64.3 4.17 3222 99.8 63000 11744 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 93.3 63.4 4.11 3209 100.0 63000 11264 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 102.9 65.9 4.27 3200 99.0 63000 11668 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.0 65.9 4.27 3200 99.0 63000 11668 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 92.8 63.1 4.09 3200 99.8 63000 11469 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 90.2 60.7 3.94 3184 100.0 63000 10933 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 92.9 60.5 3.92 3183 100.0 63000 10798 1.208 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 92.0 60.6 3.92 3177 100.0 63000 10749 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 96.4 67.0 4.34 3172 99.8 63000 11164 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 77.2 5.00 3171 90.3 59664 12528 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 103.0 67.1 4.35 3163 100.0 63000 10925 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 97.4 61.4 3.98 3162 100.0 63000 10558 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 100.8 66.4 4.30 3160 100.0 63000 10784 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 95.5 61.5 3.98 3157 100.0 63000 10810 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 93.7 61.4 3.98 3156 100.0 63000 10784 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 103.2 65.2 4.22 3153 99.3 63000 11029 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217 110.0 71.3 4.62 3137 99.6 50312 12713 1.326
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 95.3 60.7 3.93 3132 100.0 63000 9967 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 110.0 74.8 4.85 3122 96.0 50600 13109 1.316
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 71.7 4.64 3108 94.4 58286 11827 1.257 ! Near Maximum !
 
Thanks Doc, maybe I would be better off with R19 than, I do have a few pounds of that
 
RL19 has always provided top accuracy in my rifles, and excellent velocities as well.
 
DrMike":efwtrvov said:
RL19 has always provided top accuracy in my rifles, and excellent velocities as well.

RL22 is another REALLY good one with 140's and 150's. As is Magpro if you have any. I run a little over 3100 with the 150's and RL22 in my 270WSM.

RL17 doesn't look bad at all though. I'd give that one a shot..
 
thanks Scotty, I have a couple pounds of Magpro, I think will start there, then if needed I can try R17 and 19, and even imr4350 if I can't cant the magic load.
 
Magpro has been a proven winner for me in several rifles shooting the 140gr NAB. I like RL17 and RL19 with the 130's, but like others have mentioned, several powders work well in the WSM's.
 
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