Nosler SHOTS?

[meatmachineman]

Just looking for input on Nosler's SHOTS. Anyone use em? Just looking for a cheap plinking and varmint round for 243 and came across em.

 

[SJB358]

No real use here Robert, but for that purpose I can't see them being bad.

 

[jmad_81]

I can tell you they DO NOT hold together in a 1:9.25 twist over 3700 fps. I bought a 500 of them, shot three, three shot groups and only four hit the paper. Three at 3700 one at 3750, and none at 3800. I bought them for shooting yotes. But was not happy with 3700 fps out of a gun that should be doing 4000.

If you want mine I'll make you a heck of a deal on them.

 

[meatmachineman]

I can tell you they DO NOT hold together in a 1:9.25 twist over 3700 fps. I bought a 500 of them, shot three, three shot groups and only four hit the paper. Three at 3700 one at 3750, and none at 3800. I bought them for shooting yotes. But was not happy with 3700 fps out of a gun that should be doing 4000.

If you want mine I'll make you a heck of a deal on them.

That was pretty much my intent... paper punching and varmints... with some velocity. They are the 55 grainers so I expect some speed out of em. My barrel is a 1 in 10 I believe (RoyToy Vanguard). Sounds like I may encounter some of the same issues you experienced. Appreciate the offer, but I think I'll pass.

 

[RiverRider]

I was able to push them to 4000 fps and they hit the targets all right...group size was sometimes good and sometimes not. I can't blame the bullet though, that rifle just didn't like anything I fed it. That's why I no longer own it.

 

[meatmachineman]

I was able to push them to 4000 fps and they hit the targets all right...group size was sometimes good and sometimes not. I can't blame the bullet though, that rifle just didn't like anything I fed it. That's why I no longer own it.

Now why did you have to go and post that? LOL! Now I'm second guessing myself! I've got enough of a supply of 6mm pills to keep me occupied for quite some time as it sets, I just liked the price I saw on SPS of $40 per 500. Maybe they wouldn't be bad just to have in case my supply dries up and I'm hurting for some range time. :?

OK jmad_81... what kind of deal are you talkin????

 

[jmad_81]

The guys I talked to at Nosler said that they should be fine in a 1:10 twist at the higher speeds.

If I remember right I shot 9 or 10 of the 500 I had. Does $35 shipped seem reasonable? Saves ya $5 on the bullets plus $12 on the shipping.

 

[Noonanda1975]

Anyone got any suggestions on loading using Varget or H-335 for them around 3000-3500. All load data I can find has min loads going 3600+ and have had them come apart or shoot minute of Elephant at 3800ish out of a 1-10 Barrel. So i figure Im gonna try slowing them down alot and see how they do

 

[SJB358]

Cartridge : .243 Win.
Bullet : .243, 55, Nosler Varmag HP 17245
Useable Case Capaci: 54.302 grain H2O = 3.526 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 81 39.23 3206 1255 36142 8435 91.9 1.171
-09.0 82 39.67 3239 1281 37219 8538 92.5 1.158
-08.0 83 40.10 3271 1307 38326 8639 93.0 1.141
-07.0 84 40.54 3304 1333 39465 8737 93.5 1.126
-06.0 85 40.97 3336 1359 40636 8834 94.0 1.111
-05.0 86 41.41 3369 1386 41839 8928 94.5 1.096
-04.0 86 41.85 3401 1413 43076 9020 95.0 1.082
-03.0 87 42.28 3433 1439 44347 9109 95.4 1.068
-02.0 88 42.72 3465 1467 45654 9195 95.9 1.054
-01.0 89 43.15 3497 1494 46998 9279 96.3 1.041
+00.0 90 43.59 3529 1521 48379 9360 96.7 1.027
+01.0 91 44.03 3561 1549 49798 9439 97.0 1.014
+02.0 92 44.46 3593 1576 51258 9514 97.4 1.001 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 93 44.90 3624 1604 52758 9586 97.7 0.989 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 94 45.33 3656 1632 54301 9655 98.0 0.976 ! Near Maximum !
+05.0 95 45.77 3687 1660 55887 9721 98.3 0.964 ! Near Maximum !

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 90 43.59 3694 1666 56311 9419 99.7 0.957 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 90 43.59 3319 1346 40599 8912 90.2 1.117


Cartridge : .243 Win.
Bullet : .243, 55, Nosler Varmag HP 17245
Useable Case Capaci: 54.302 grain H2O = 3.526 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H335

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 72 39.23 3348 1369 40103 8732 98.4 1.124
-09.0 73 39.67 3379 1395 41318 8804 98.7 1.109
-08.0 73 40.10 3411 1421 42565 8872 99.0 1.094
-07.0 74 40.54 3442 1447 43847 8936 99.2 1.079
-06.0 75 40.97 3473 1473 45163 8996 99.4 1.065
-05.0 76 41.41 3504 1500 46515 9053 99.6 1.051
-04.0 77 41.85 3535 1526 47903 9105 99.7 1.037
-03.0 77 42.28 3565 1553 49329 9154 99.8 1.024
-02.0 78 42.72 3596 1579 50793 9199 99.9 1.011
-01.0 79 43.15 3626 1605 52297 9239 100.0 0.998 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 80 43.59 3655 1632 53841 9276 100.0 0.985 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 81 44.03 3685 1658 55427 9309 100.0 0.973 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 81 44.46 3714 1685 57056 9340 100.0 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 82 44.90 3743 1711 58729 9371 100.0 0.949 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 83 45.33 3772 1737 60447 9402 100.0 0.937 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 84 45.77 3800 1764 62212 9432 100.0 0.926 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 80 43.59 3782 1747 62796 8998 100.0 0.920 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 80 43.59 3470 1471 44870 9327 97.4 1.072


Hope this helps out some.

 

[RiverRider]

I was able to push them to 4000 fps and they hit the targets all right...group size was sometimes good and sometimes not. I can't blame the bullet though, that rifle just didn't like anything I fed it. That's why I no longer own it.

Now why did you have to go and post that?

I'm not stingy with my rare successes...or my frustrations!
:mrgreen:

 

[Noonanda1975]

SJB358,
First off Semper Fi, and how do you get your quickload to display the results like that. I also have quickload but havent been able to figure out a few things.

TIA

 

[SJB358]

Semper Fi to you too mac!

I circled the tab in RED where it will put the display like that