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Official Nosler ABLR Load Data (300 WM added)
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Cartridge : .300 Win. Mag.(W)
Bullet : .308, 190, Berger VLD G7 #30514
Useable Case Capaci: 82.199 grain H2O = 5.337 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64570 psi, or 445 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
15 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 87.9 5.69 3201 97.6 63864 13961 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder 33 109.8 91.4 5.92 3195 98.2 64570 13751 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 109.4 82.9 5.37 3142 99.9 64570 12544 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 103.5 84.0 5.44 3140 99.9 64570 12313 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 103.9 84.0 5.44 3139 99.9 64570 12303 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 103.7 83.9 5.44 3138 99.9 64570 12275 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 101.1 78.3 5.07 3137 99.5 64570 12590 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 99.2 78.5 5.08 3132 100.0 64570 12089 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 101.3 81.6 5.29 3130 98.8 64570 12728 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 107.2 80.8 5.23 3130 100.0 64570 11621 1.208 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 105.6 77.8 5.04 3126 99.7 64570 12158 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 99.9 77.8 5.04 3126 99.7 64570 12158 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 101.0 77.3 5.01 3113 99.7 64570 12081 1.199 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 104.8 82.4 5.34 3110 99.8 64570 11884 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 101.4 77.6 5.03 3108 100.0 64570 12005 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 101.4 77.6 5.03 3108 100.0 64570 12005 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 101.4 77.6 5.03 3108 100.0 64570 12005 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 104.1 78.0 5.06 3107 100.0 64570 12031 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 82.4 5.34 3101 99.8 64116 11840 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 104.7 80.9 5.24 3082 98.6 64570 12037 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 102.7 77.2 5.00 3079 99.5 64570 11820 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218 110.0 88.8 5.75 3069 95.9 56420 13812 1.264
ADI AR 2209 97.9 73.8 4.78 3067 100.0 64570 11415 1.207 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 98.4 74.6 4.83 3065 100.0 64570 11476 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 99.1 75.1 4.87 3058 100.0 64570 11397 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 83.8 5.43 3053 100.0 56199 12132 1.276
Ramshot Hunter 94.0 73.5 4.76 3049 100.0 64570 10988 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 103.7 76.3 4.95 3045 99.3 64570 11437 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.7 76.3 4.95 3045 99.3 64570 11437 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 93.4 73.1 4.74 3042 99.9 64570 11204 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 96.5 73.1 4.74 3042 99.9 64570 11204 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 96.5 73.1 4.74 3042 99.9 64570 11204 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 90.9 70.4 4.56 3024 100.0 64570 10664 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 98.6 75.5 4.89 3023 100.0 64570 10891 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 93.5 70.1 4.54 3022 100.0 64570 10523 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 93.6 70.1 4.54 3021 100.0 64570 10520 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 97.1 77.6 5.03 3017 99.9 64570 10915 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 95.2 71.8 4.65 3016 100.0 64570 10195 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 97.4 72.8 4.72 3016 99.6 64570 10996 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 96.8 70.2 4.55 3015 100.0 64570 10461 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 94.2 72.4 4.69 3013 100.0 64570 10699 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 103.7 77.8 5.04 3008 100.0 64570 10660 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100 109.6 89.4 5.79 3006 92.8 64570 11650 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 107.3 76.9 4.98 3003 100.0 64570 10514 1.251 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 107.3 76.9 4.98 3003 100.0 64570 10514 1.251 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 98.1 71.2 4.61 3002 100.0 64570 10287 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 88.8 5.75 3001 90.8 59489 12323 1.249 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 104.0 75.5 4.89 2999 99.6 64570 10796 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 93.5 70.1 4.54 2997 100.0 64570 10507 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 96.4 77.8 5.04 2986 99.3 64570 10823 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 91.6 68.1 4.41 2981 100.0 64570 10405 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 96.0 70.4 4.56 2971 100.0 64570 9705 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 92.5 68.6 4.45 2969 100.0 64570 10106 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 110.0 86.1 5.58 2957 96.4 50476 12873 1.350
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 82.4 5.34 2941 94.8 58233 11600 1.291 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 110.0 90.1 5.84 2934 93.9 48682 13284 1.391
Accurate 4064 90.1 63.8 4.14 2905 100.0 64570 9193 1.270 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0 88.2 5.71 2862 85.8 50579 12400 1.397
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 88.8 5.75 2805 87.1 48268 11609 1.384
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 84.6 5.48 2801 82.8 48291 11625 1.382
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 85.2 5.52 2746 91.2 44164 11356 1.447
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 89.7 5.81 2711 87.5 42185 11488 1.475
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 85.2 5.52 2681 88.4 41392 11105 1.490
Accurate 8700 110.0 85.3 5.53 2661 89.1 40378 11064 1.497
NC A3502 ,test only 110.0 81.5 5.28 2458 64.2 37633 8953 1.555
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 110.0 81.5 5.28 2437 68.6 35407 9316 1.599
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 110.0 81.5 5.28 1739 31.6 19348 4398 2.100HOGWILD338-378
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http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/i ... 0011558456FOTIS":dmf6bgm7 said:
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I can get well over 3300 fps from my 30-378 bee
That is flat!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is flat!!!!!!!!!!!!!
boomer68
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Will have to try them in my 300 RUM.
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andrewctillman
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Has anyone run Quick Load data for either LR bullet in the 300 WBY?
I have a 1-8 twist barrel 26 inches long.
thanks! (Or did I miss it somewhere here already?)
I have a 1-8 twist barrel 26 inches long.
thanks! (Or did I miss it somewhere here already?)
DrMike
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Code:
Cartridge : .300 Win. Mag.(W)
Bullet : .308, 190, Nosler AccuBond LR 58456 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 80.758 grain H2O = 5.244 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
31 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570 109.9 86.3 5.59 3166 97.1 62000 13663 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 110.0 90.0 5.83 3146 97.4 61631 13481 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 108.9 81.1 5.25 3102 99.8 62000 12305 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 100.5 76.5 4.95 3094 99.3 62000 12312 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 106.7 79.0 5.12 3093 100.0 62000 11406 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 98.7 76.7 4.97 3093 100.0 62000 11865 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 100.8 79.8 5.17 3087 98.4 62000 12435 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 99.4 76.0 4.92 3083 99.5 62000 11903 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 105.0 76.0 4.92 3083 99.5 62000 11903 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 100.4 75.5 4.89 3070 99.5 62000 11818 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 100.8 75.8 4.91 3067 99.9 62000 11768 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 104.3 80.6 5.22 3066 99.7 62000 11651 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 103.5 76.2 4.94 3066 99.9 62000 11790 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 109.7 80.7 5.23 3064 99.6 62000 11617 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 100.7 81.6 5.29 3048 100.0 62000 11212 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218 110.0 87.2 5.65 3036 95.2 55161 13499 1.279 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225 110.0 82.3 5.34 3027 100.0 54912 11944 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 82.3 5.34 3027 100.0 54912 11944 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 97.2 72.0 4.66 3025 99.8 62000 11172 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 97.7 72.7 4.71 3023 99.9 62000 11229 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 93.3 71.7 4.65 3010 100.0 62000 10760 1.245 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 103.0 74.5 4.83 3002 99.0 62000 11168 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.0 74.5 4.83 3002 99.0 62000 11168 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 92.8 71.3 4.62 3000 99.8 62000 10958 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 90.2 68.6 4.45 2984 100.0 62000 10430 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 92.8 68.4 4.43 2983 100.0 62000 10296 1.253 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 92.0 68.5 4.44 2977 100.0 62000 10245 1.271 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 96.5 75.8 4.91 2976 99.8 62000 10690 1.245 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 87.2 5.65 2971 90.1 58204 12023 1.262 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 103.1 75.9 4.92 2968 100.0 62000 10453 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 100.9 75.1 4.87 2965 100.0 62000 10315 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 97.4 69.4 4.50 2964 100.0 62000 10068 1.262 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 95.4 69.5 4.50 2958 100.0 62000 10310 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 93.6 69.3 4.49 2957 100.0 62000 10283 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 103.2 73.7 4.77 2956 99.3 62000 10544 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217 110.0 80.6 5.23 2942 99.6 48927 12198 1.375
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 95.3 68.6 4.45 2935 100.0 62000 9496 1.255 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 110.0 84.6 5.48 2927 95.9 49218 12594 1.365
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 81.0 5.25 2914 94.4 57011 11342 1.304 ! Near Maximum !andrewctillman
Beginner
- Feb 6, 2013
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Load the 300 win mag to 3.6 OCL with custom barrel and throat and you will add another 100 fps. Old school 1000 yard set up.
Where is 300 weatherby data?
Can someone post QL data with 190 and 210 grain?
Where is 300 weatherby data?
Can someone post QL data with 190 and 210 grain?
Team .30,
I have loaded 190 ABLR with 87,88,89gr of IMR 7828 SSC and 210 ABLR with 83,85gr of IMR 7828 SSC for use in my 300 RUM, 10 of each. These are all Nosler load specs except the 89gr for the 190 but, since they tested with a 24" barrel and my Browning has a 26' I expect it to be the best load. I will not get a change to test these loads until later in Nov however, I will report back. If anyone has any input I will be happy to read it.
I have loaded 190 ABLR with 87,88,89gr of IMR 7828 SSC and 210 ABLR with 83,85gr of IMR 7828 SSC for use in my 300 RUM, 10 of each. These are all Nosler load specs except the 89gr for the 190 but, since they tested with a 24" barrel and my Browning has a 26' I expect it to be the best load. I will not get a change to test these loads until later in Nov however, I will report back. If anyone has any input I will be happy to read it.
DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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Welcome aboard 300RUM; we're always glad to see new people posting. I anticipate you will find a good load with those you have prepared. The 300RUM certainly delivers a sound wallop on game; and the ABLR will make that cartridge shine, for sure.
Team .30,
I ended up loading 190 ABLR with 87, 89, 91gr of IMR 7828 SSC. All shot tight groups with the 91gr being the best. For the 210 ABLR I ended up loading 85, 87, 89gr of IMR 7828 SSC. The 85 and 87gr grouped well but, 89 grains were a three inch group at 100 yards. So, for me and my Browning 300 RUM with a 26 inch barrel, using a lead sled, 91gr of IMR 7828 SSC 3300 FPS (my best guess) group less than one inch and the 210 ABLR with 87gr of IMR 7828 SSC 3200 FPS (my best guess) do the same. These are now my loads for .30 ABLR bullets BTW I killed four Whitetail recently with the 190 ABLR at 50, 65, 185, and 202 yards all were bang flop. The bullets expanded well and did a lot of damage. I will save these loads and this gun for bigger game in the future now that I have it dialed in.
I ended up loading 190 ABLR with 87, 89, 91gr of IMR 7828 SSC. All shot tight groups with the 91gr being the best. For the 210 ABLR I ended up loading 85, 87, 89gr of IMR 7828 SSC. The 85 and 87gr grouped well but, 89 grains were a three inch group at 100 yards. So, for me and my Browning 300 RUM with a 26 inch barrel, using a lead sled, 91gr of IMR 7828 SSC 3300 FPS (my best guess) group less than one inch and the 210 ABLR with 87gr of IMR 7828 SSC 3200 FPS (my best guess) do the same. These are now my loads for .30 ABLR bullets BTW I killed four Whitetail recently with the 190 ABLR at 50, 65, 185, and 202 yards all were bang flop. The bullets expanded well and did a lot of damage. I will save these loads and this gun for bigger game in the future now that I have it dialed in.
Jimbeaux82
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Any load data yet for the 7mm Weatherby with 150 gr and 175 gr ABLR?
I used the 210gr ABLR on Plains Game in Africa with great success. However, after shooting I noticed the bullets in the mag had moved back into the case? This also happen on the 200gr Partitions I used. All were handloaded in Nosler bass that had been used once before in the same gun. What should I do to prevent this from happening?
300RUM":2xtn3pez said:
I've sent a fair number of round downrange with a 7STW and not had any issue with the LRAB setting back. With stiff loads they have remained in place. I've done the same with heavy 35 whelen loads and they were just fine.
A few thoughts:
- Did you top off your rifle and leave the same 2-3 rounds in the box magazine the whole time? 3-4 rounds probably couldn't setback a normally tensioned bullet in a neck, but if you ran 20-30 and never rotated them out of the magazine, you might have taken it to the extreme.
- Is your expander ball in spec? If you expander ball was a bit oversized, you could not be getting enough neck tension. A simple press test on the bullets should tell you if it's happening.
- Worst case, get a Lee Factory Crimp die and give them a very very slight crimp. Shouldn't affect anything, but will tighten the necks up a hair. (I'm super safety paranoid, so I'd work my loads back up to the same charge if I was adding a crimp, just to make sure you don't have any pressure signs.)
I've read where most people are having a heck of a time getting the ABLR bullets to shoot. Many have given up. I'm interested in these bullets for my 300 Win Mag but have heard so many bad things about getting these 190's and 210's to shoot I'm leery of even trying them.
For those of you having success with these what barrel twists are you guys using in the 300 WM and how close to the lands are you seating the bullets? How much jump?
For those of you having success with these what barrel twists are you guys using in the 300 WM and how close to the lands are you seating the bullets? How much jump?
Thanks for everyone’s input with my 210gr ABLR seating issue. I figured it out. I have two sets of dies for the 300 RUM. Set 1 set had been used for loading the 190gr ABLR with great success. When loading the 210gr ABLR I used new die set 2 and new Nosler brass. Since the brass was new and I did not need to push out the used primer I did not adjust the die to fully seat and size the new brass. I should have noticed this because when pulling the brass down there should have been resistant when the expander ball was resizing the case neck. There was none.
Alaska
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HOGWILD338-378":3bdkgp1f said:Guess I got good info as I got these today kicked all the way from Tennessee :lol:
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excaliber":sbtv5bkz said:
I have them shooting great in 2 different 280AI's. the secret seems to be seating depth, some rifles like them seated deep and other rifles like them seated really deep!
I started both Guns at 0.010 off the lands, one rifle grouped at 0.040 off and this one didn't group until 0.120 off but man did it group. 5 shots in 0.298"
At 0.010 off the lands this rifle shot nothing under 3/4" with most being 1-1/4".
I have always worked powder charge at 0.010 off the lands, picked the best and then played with seating. After this, when loading this bullet I will pick a medium powder charge and test seating depth first and then test powder charges.
