YoteSmoker
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Partition / Partition Gold--The Same Bullet???
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Yote,
The PT and PT Gold are of different construction. The PT Gold has a steel cup insert in the rear core. The Partition is also moved forward giving more weight to the rear core. Moly coating was added but Nosler also offered Molly Free.
JD338
The PT and PT Gold are of different construction. The PT Gold has a steel cup insert in the rear core. The Partition is also moved forward giving more weight to the rear core. Moly coating was added but Nosler also offered Molly Free.
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YoteSmoker
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Thanks JD338! I better stick with my tried and true nosler Partition load.
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Yote,
If the price is right, why not???
What caliber and weight are those PT Golds?
JD338
If the price is right, why not???
What caliber and weight are those PT Golds?
JD338
DrMike
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The Partition Gold is of a more complex construction, but some would consider them to be a tougher bullet. JD338 is right to encourage you to try them. They may work for what you want, and if the price is right they could be a steal. A few extra bullets never hurt the inventory. At some point in the future they can always be used for break-in or working up a load for a friend or put them on sale at a gun show.
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YoteSmoker
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160 7mm...The regular partitions shoot phenominal in my m70 7 rem mag. The pt golds for sale are also non-molly.
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Yote,
The coated ones shoot well in my 7mm Remington Magnum. You might want to give them a try, and especially since they are the uncoated and especially since they are a good price.
The coated ones shoot well in my 7mm Remington Magnum. You might want to give them a try, and especially since they are the uncoated and especially since they are a good price.
G
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I'd try them if you can get them cheap. They are a tough design, and would be a great choice in the 160gr for elk or moose, imo. Pay attention to pressure signs as you can reach them before a regular Partition (due to the lower compressibility of the steel cup).
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dubyam":2973sfr9 said:
Good point made by dubyam, pressures will run higher.
Just back off on your pet load and work up, you will be fine.
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YoteSmoker
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Thanks for all the info/input you guys. The bullets are on their way to me, all 185 of them. Sure hope my gun likes them!
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Good deal yote!
Give us a range report.
JD338
Give us a range report.
JD338
DrMike
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I think you'll find them to work well for you. A good buy in today's market can be worth working with.
Greg Nolan
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Pop
How was the accuracy on the Partition golds. I had read that the concentricity wasn't as good due to the varience of the steel cup centering. What do you think?
Good Hunting
Elkhunt :grin:
How was the accuracy on the Partition golds. I had read that the concentricity wasn't as good due to the varience of the steel cup centering. What do you think?
Good Hunting
Elkhunt :grin:
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Greg Nolan":19qhv3f4 said:
Greg,
I loaded the 250 gr PT Gold Molly Free bullets in my 338 RUM. They didn't shoot quite as good as the 250 gr PT, but still under MOA.
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YoteSmoker
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I know these would be excellent for use on elk and moose. Would I be crazy to use them on deer or really big bears?
I was happy with the performance of the 160 Partition I used only once to kill a deer at 286 yards.
I was happy with the performance of the 160 Partition I used only once to kill a deer at 286 yards.
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Not at all.
if you can find any........
if you can find any........
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JD338
Sounds good enough :grin:
Thanks
Greg
Sounds good enough :grin:
Thanks
Greg
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Greg Nolan":gqbn5tfz said:
With AA8700 and 180 PTG's I got 3400 fps and 1.5-1.7" at 300 yards from my 300 rum Sako 75.
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Well, I loaded up the 160 pt golds with 63.0 grains of RL-22 (same charge as my pet 160 Partition load and headed off to the range the other day. I found that the pt gold shot a little bit more accurate at 100 yards than the partitions which in time gone by have shot one ragged hole 5 shots. So, I believe either will work fine but more impressed with the PT gold on an accuracy point.
Exterior differences I noted were the PT gold runs about .020 longer in length than the standard Partition. It has a flat base where the standard Partition has a semi-boat tail. It appears the jacket is thicker but may be an optical illusion because ot the flat base vs the angles of the standard Partition.
When discussing with my buddy here in town which he would use for deer, he told me the most accurate of the two and at whatever angle the deer was, shoot for the opposite shoulder and it will do the job well. But not to shoot directly for the heart/lungs on a broadside shot as the heavily constructed bullet may very well pencil through with little to no expansiion.
I'm still going to play with the 160 AccuBond as it has a very high b.c., maybe try some H4831 vs RL-22 and see what happens in the accuracy dept.
Either way, any of those 3 bullets should do the job fine on the big stuff, just looking for a one bullet universal round to use for everything at this point in time. I really love the 7 mag and I'm on a quest to find one load for all.
Exterior differences I noted were the PT gold runs about .020 longer in length than the standard Partition. It has a flat base where the standard Partition has a semi-boat tail. It appears the jacket is thicker but may be an optical illusion because ot the flat base vs the angles of the standard Partition.
When discussing with my buddy here in town which he would use for deer, he told me the most accurate of the two and at whatever angle the deer was, shoot for the opposite shoulder and it will do the job well. But not to shoot directly for the heart/lungs on a broadside shot as the heavily constructed bullet may very well pencil through with little to no expansiion.
I'm still going to play with the 160 AccuBond as it has a very high b.c., maybe try some H4831 vs RL-22 and see what happens in the accuracy dept.
Either way, any of those 3 bullets should do the job fine on the big stuff, just looking for a one bullet universal round to use for everything at this point in time. I really love the 7 mag and I'm on a quest to find one load for all.
