QL 338-06

[thatguySHM]

Hey there,

Just wondering if I could get quick load data on 338-06 and CFE 223. Never thought about using this powder, saw that folks are using it for the 35 Whalen, might as well try.

225 AccuBond, Winchester 30-06 brass necked up, 3.450 COAL, 25" barrel. Not sure if QL has the 225 Speer Deep Curl but may try that also.

Thanks guys!!

SHM

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[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 225, Nosler AccuBond 54357
Useable Case Capaci: 58.126 grain H2O = 3.774 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.450 inch = 87.63 mm
Barrel Length      : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   85    51.03   2457    3016   44670   7073     98.8    1.369
-09.0   86    51.60   2482    3079   46162   7132     99.0    1.350
-08.0   87    52.16   2508    3141   47706   7188     99.2    1.330
-07.0   88    52.73   2533    3205   49305   7241     99.4    1.311
-06.0   89    53.30   2558    3268   50961   7291     99.5    1.293
-05.0   90    53.87   2583    3332   52676   7337     99.7    1.274
-04.0   91    54.43   2607    3397   54452   7381     99.8    1.256  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   92    55.00   2632    3461   56294   7422     99.9    1.239  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   93    55.57   2657    3526   58201   7459     99.9    1.221  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   94    56.13   2681    3592   60180   7493    100.0    1.204  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   95    56.70   2706    3658   62231   7524    100.0    1.188  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   96    57.27   2730    3724   64350   7552    100.0    1.172  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   97    57.83   2754    3790   66539   7579    100.0    1.155  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   98    58.40   2778    3857   68802   7605    100.0    1.140  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   99    58.97   2802    3924   71147   7631    100.0    1.124  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  100    59.54   2826    3991   73579   7657    100.0    1.109  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     95    56.70   2798    3911   74798   7193    100.0    1.111  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     95    56.70   2566    3289   50351   7683     97.4    1.292

Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 225, Speer DCSP 2403
Useable Case Capaci: 62.318 grain H2O = 4.046 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.450 inch = 87.63 mm
Barrel Length      : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   84    53.46   2493    3104   45027   7496     99.2    1.360
-09.0   84    54.05   2518    3167   46511   7556     99.4    1.341
-08.0   85    54.65   2543    3230   48047   7612     99.5    1.322
-07.0   86    55.24   2568    3294   49635   7666     99.7    1.303
-06.0   87    55.84   2593    3358   51277   7716     99.8    1.285
-05.0   88    56.43   2617    3423   52977   7763     99.9    1.267
-04.0   89    57.02   2642    3487   54727   7806     99.9    1.249  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   90    57.62   2667    3552   56529   7846    100.0    1.232  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   91    58.21   2691    3618   58387   7883    100.0    1.215  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   92    58.81   2715    3684   60304   7916    100.0    1.198  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   93    59.40   2740    3750   62285   7949    100.0    1.182  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   94    59.99   2764    3816   64335   7981    100.0    1.166  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   95    60.59   2788    3882   66455   8013    100.0    1.150  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   96    61.18   2811    3949   68648   8044    100.0    1.135  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   97    61.78   2835    4016   70918   8074    100.0    1.120  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0   97    62.37   2859    4084   73268   8104    100.0    1.105  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     93    59.40   2829    3999   74506   7623    100.0    1.106  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     93    59.40   2603    3385   50437   8164     98.0    1.285

 

[thatguySHM]

Great! Thank you. Looks like a winner to me.

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[thatguySHM]

Hey there.

Just saw that Shooters Pro has 200gr ballistic tips, so I ordered a bunch. Trying to figure out what I should use. Any suggestions? RL17/15? CFE 223? IMR 4064? Any I haven't listed? I got respectable velocity and a flat spot with CFE and the 225 Deep Curl, going to start seating depth test and group testing when I get to normal hunting temps again, so wouldn't mind getting everything loaded up and ready so I can stare at them on the loading bench all loaded and pretty.

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[fremont]

I shoot 200 NABs over Re-15 in my Ackley version. Accurate.

 

[Mighty Peace]

I use both the 225gr AB's and TTSX in my AI version with H414.

I would like to build a light weight version off a Sako m75 with lightweight stock, with 22" #3 barrel fluted and shoot 185gr TTSX. Be a sweet mountain rifle.

 

[Blkram]

Mighty Peace,

Sounds like a neat rifle...will it be Ackley'd too?

Have you considered the Model 85 Carbonlight in 338 Federal?
Short action rifle with the attributes you are looking for...plus a more secure magazine than the 75...
Where you can still find it, Federal Premium ammunition was loaded with the 185 gr TSX at 2750 fps.

In the long action rebarrelled to the 338-06, that bullet should get almost 2900 fps.