QL request - 270 Win

boomer68

Handloader
Oct 23, 2006
862
59
Could someone please run QL on the following bullets?

130gr AB
130gr BT

Thanks!
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .277, 130, Nosler BalTip 27130
Useable Case Capaci: 60.832 grain H2O = 3.950 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 106.4     64.1     4.16    3304   100.0    64000   12836   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          107.1     62.7     4.06    3270    99.4    64000   12914   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    108.8     62.4     4.04    3254    96.9    64000   13075   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  103.5     61.8     4.01    3253    99.7    64000   12526   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   97.3     57.3     3.71    3246   100.0    64000   11546   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    109.0     65.0     4.21    3240    95.4    64000   13069   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       109.1     61.9     4.01    3234    98.5    64000   12651   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       109.1     61.9     4.01    3234    98.5    64000   12651   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 109.1     61.9     4.01    3234    98.5    64000   12651   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       107.1     61.7     4.00    3233    97.2    64000   12635   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  96.3     56.6     3.67    3221   100.0    64000   11474   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            96.3     56.6     3.67    3221   100.0    64000   11474   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        108.0     61.2     3.97    3215    97.1    64000   12499   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     108.3     66.1     4.29    3202    98.9    64000   12043   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     65.8     4.27    3202    97.3    61592   12693   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     65.8     4.27    3196    97.1    61229   12694   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 103.0     56.3     3.65    3195   100.0    64000   11337   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   99.7     58.6     3.80    3191   100.0    64000   11580   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                101.8     59.0     3.82    3189    99.6    64000   11842   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 97.8     58.4     3.79    3187    99.7    64000   11773   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        104.9     58.5     3.79    3186    98.2    64000   11961   1.061  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     101.1     58.5     3.79    3186    99.7    64000   11755   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 105.6     59.2     3.84    3185    98.3    64000   12042   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     61.2     3.97    3184    96.7    63566   12219   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       103.1     57.5     3.73    3184   100.0    64000   10951   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      95.5     56.6     3.67    3183    99.4    64000   11783   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        95.5     56.6     3.67    3183    99.4    64000   11783   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         106.3     59.6     3.86    3177    98.3    64000   11948   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          100.7     55.8     3.62    3167   100.0    64000   11292   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     61.0     3.95    3167    97.8    59767   12478   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     61.0     3.95    3167    97.8    59767   12478   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         100.7     55.8     3.62    3167   100.0    64000   11289   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     97.8     56.0     3.63    3166   100.0    64000   11430   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       99.8     56.0     3.63    3163   100.0    64000   11261   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        103.3     58.0     3.76    3159    98.1    64000   11715   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          103.3     58.0     3.76    3159    98.1    64000   11715   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          100.1     58.0     3.76    3159    98.1    64000   11715   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 110.0     60.3     3.91    3157   100.0    59750   11467   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   106.6     60.4     3.91    3151    96.4    64000   11762   1.066  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           105.6     56.7     3.67    3147   100.0    64000   11043   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       105.8     60.0     3.89    3147    99.0    64000   11534   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       100.9     57.5     3.72    3137    99.2    64000   11345   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      109.1     61.2     3.96    3136    99.7    64000   11248   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     64.0     4.15    3135    96.4    60189   12131   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             103.8     61.4     3.98    3130    98.1    64000   11384   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     59.9     3.88    3127    95.9    57505   12319   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                103.3     56.0     3.63    3125   100.0    64000   10398   1.079  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      104.1     57.6     3.73    3124    97.2    64000   11387   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     59.9     3.88    3124    96.1    62188   11679   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         100.2     55.6     3.60    3122    99.4    64000   11180   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        92.9     53.2     3.45    3121   100.0    64000   10907   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.0     62.9     4.08    3118    94.1    60730   12030   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   107.8     58.8     3.81    3113    96.6    64000   11406   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       93.3     52.9     3.43    3112   100.0    64000   10496   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          93.3     52.9     3.43    3112   100.0    64000   10496   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       95.4     52.9     3.43    3107   100.0    64000   10413   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        95.6     52.4     3.40    3102   100.0    64000   10425   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     61.3     3.98    3101    99.5    53671   12226   1.147
Rottweil R907                       97.8     53.8     3.49    3100    99.0    64000   10977   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          97.8     53.8     3.49    3100    99.0    64000   10977   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          99.0     54.3     3.52    3100    99.8    64000   10786   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        94.7     53.9     3.49    3099    99.0    64000   10969   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     61.0     3.95    3092    98.4    61582   11145   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       102.9     61.4     3.98    3085    96.4    64000   11107   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     59.1     3.83    3074    96.7    61967   11069   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       92.9     50.9     3.30    3067   100.0    64000    9858   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        110.0     61.7     4.00    2998    94.4    48613   12325   1.209
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     61.7     4.00    2998    94.4    48613   12325   1.209
Lovex S071                         110.0     58.3     3.78    2978    98.7    53555   10952   1.192
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     65.0     4.21    2976    87.1    47477   12816   1.217
IMR 7977 Enduron                   110.0     61.0     3.95    2967    87.7    60365   10497   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     61.0     3.95    2939    93.4    49527   11482   1.189
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     61.0     3.95    2939    93.4    49527   11482   1.189
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     66.9     4.34    2886    85.9    44443   12334   1.258
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     62.0     4.02    2869    95.0    42772   12040   1.276
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     62.0     4.02    2869    95.0    42772   12040   1.276
Lovex D100                         110.0     66.4     4.30    2834    82.1    49848   10479   1.206
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     66.9     4.34    2829    85.2    42383   12095   1.286
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     65.7     4.26    2796    81.2    43308   11925   1.273
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     65.7     4.26    2791    78.4    46010   10763   1.243
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     61.0     3.95    2773    84.9    44574   10545   1.282
Norma 217                          110.0     60.7     3.94    2753    91.5    36854   11826   1.376
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     63.7     4.13    2721    84.2    37697   11481   1.362
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     66.7     4.32    2654    79.5    34625   11483   1.423
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     65.2     4.23    2623    72.4    36694   10566   1.422
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     62.6     4.06    2585    69.5    37107    9797   1.380
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     65.7     4.26    2583    73.5    36905    9868   1.387
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     63.0     4.08    2526    77.8    33261    9797   1.450
Accurate 8700                      110.0     64.4     4.17    2486    75.5    33172    9572   1.450
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     66.4     4.30    2455    72.1    31606    9550   1.483
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     63.0     4.08    2455    74.2    31374    9394   1.488
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     60.3     3.91    2265    50.6    30263    6917   1.520
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     60.3     3.91    2240    54.9    28125    7375   1.565
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       110.0     60.3     3.91    1608    24.8    15897    3367   2.022

Code:
Cartridge          : .270 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .277, 130, Nosler AccuBond 54987
Useable Case Capaci: 60.375 grain H2O = 3.920 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 106.7     63.8     4.14    3302   100.0    64000   12764   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          107.4     62.4     4.04    3268    99.4    64000   12838   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    109.1     62.1     4.02    3251    96.8    64000   12990   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  103.8     61.5     3.99    3249    99.6    64000   12451   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   97.6     57.0     3.69    3244   100.0    64000   11479   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    109.3     64.7     4.19    3237    95.3    64000   12981   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       109.4     61.6     3.99    3232    98.4    64000   12573   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       109.4     61.6     3.99    3232    98.4    64000   12573   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 109.4     61.6     3.99    3232    98.4    64000   12573   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       107.4     61.4     3.98    3229    97.2    64000   12550   1.057  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  96.6     56.4     3.65    3219   100.0    64000   11409   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            96.6     56.4     3.65    3219   100.0    64000   11409   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        108.2     60.9     3.95    3212    97.0    64000   12415   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     108.5     65.8     4.26    3199    98.9    64000   11965   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 103.3     56.0     3.63    3193   100.0    64000   11271   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.0     58.3     3.78    3189   100.0    64000   11513   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     65.3     4.23    3188    97.1    60957   12584   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                102.1     58.7     3.80    3186    99.6    64000   11771   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 98.1     58.2     3.77    3185    99.7    64000   11703   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     101.3     58.2     3.77    3183    99.7    64000   11686   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        105.2     58.2     3.77    3183    98.2    64000   11883   1.061  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 105.9     58.9     3.82    3183    98.3    64000   11966   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       103.4     57.2     3.71    3183   100.0    64000   10888   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     65.3     4.23    3182    96.9    60605   12584   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        95.7     56.4     3.65    3180    99.4    64000   11711   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      95.7     56.4     3.65    3180    99.4    64000   11711   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         106.6     59.3     3.84    3175    98.3    64000   11873   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     60.8     3.94    3172    96.5    62945   12111   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          100.9     55.6     3.60    3165   100.0    64000   11227   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         100.9     55.6     3.60    3165   100.0    64000   11224   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     98.0     55.7     3.61    3164   100.0    64000   11364   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      100.1     55.7     3.61    3160   100.0    64000   11196   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        103.6     57.7     3.74    3156    98.0    64000   11639   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          103.6     57.7     3.74    3156    98.0    64000   11639   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          100.3     57.7     3.74    3156    98.0    64000   11639   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     60.6     3.92    3155    97.6    59182   12373   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     60.6     3.92    3155    97.6    59182   12373   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   106.8     60.1     3.89    3147    96.3    64000   11683   1.066  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 110.0     59.9     3.88    3147   100.0    59132   11392   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           105.9     56.4     3.66    3145   100.0    64000   10979   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       106.1     59.7     3.87    3144    98.9    64000   11462   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       101.2     57.2     3.70    3134    99.2    64000   11274   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      109.3     60.9     3.94    3133    99.7    64000   11180   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             104.1     61.1     3.96    3127    98.1    64000   11309   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                103.6     55.8     3.61    3123   100.0    64000   10336   1.079  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     63.6     4.12    3122    96.2    59644   12022   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      104.4     57.3     3.71    3121    97.1    64000   11311   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         100.4     55.3     3.58    3119    99.4    64000   11110   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        93.2     53.0     3.43    3119   100.0    64000   10842   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     59.5     3.86    3114    95.7    56987   12207   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     59.5     3.86    3112    95.9    61640   11574   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   108.0     58.5     3.79    3110    96.6    64000   11329   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       93.5     52.6     3.41    3110   100.0    64000   10434   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          93.5     52.6     3.41    3110   100.0    64000   10434   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.0     62.4     4.04    3106    93.9    60218   11916   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       95.7     52.7     3.41    3104   100.0    64000   10351   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        95.8     52.2     3.38    3100   100.0    64000   10363   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          99.3     54.0     3.50    3097    99.8    64000   10720   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       98.0     53.6     3.47    3097    98.9    64000   10906   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          98.0     53.6     3.47    3097    98.9    64000   10906   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        95.0     53.6     3.47    3096    98.9    64000   10898   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     60.9     3.95    3089    99.4    53165   12135   1.151
Somchem S361                       103.1     61.1     3.96    3082    96.3    64000   11032   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     60.6     3.92    3081    98.3    61012   11054   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       93.1     50.7     3.29    3065   100.0    64000    9800   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     58.7     3.80    3063    96.6    61462   10972   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        110.0     61.2     3.97    2985    94.2    48112   12208   1.214
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     61.2     3.97    2985    94.2    48112   12208   1.214
Lovex S071                         110.0     57.9     3.75    2967    98.6    53013   10865   1.197
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     64.5     4.18    2962    86.8    47003   12674   1.223
IMR 7977 Enduron                   110.0     60.6     3.92    2955    87.5    59895   10388   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     60.6     3.92    2927    93.2    49090   11368   1.194
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     60.6     3.92    2927    93.2    49090   11368   1.194
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     66.4     4.30    2871    85.5    43994   12192   1.264
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     61.6     3.99    2856    94.7    42377   11922   1.281
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     61.6     3.99    2856    94.7    42377   11922   1.281
Lovex D100                         110.0     65.9     4.27    2821    81.8    49378   10361   1.211
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     66.4     4.30    2814    84.8    41961   11952   1.293
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     65.2     4.23    2781    80.7    42912   11767   1.279
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     65.2     4.23    2778    78.0    45601   10634   1.249
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     60.6     3.92    2761    84.6    44143   10431   1.288
Norma 217                          110.0     60.3     3.91    2739    91.1    36478   11700   1.382
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     63.2     4.10    2707    83.8    37328   11346   1.369
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     66.2     4.29    2640    79.0    34239   11338   1.429
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     64.7     4.20    2610    72.0    36256   10436   1.429
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     62.2     4.03    2573    69.2    36774    9673   1.387
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     65.2     4.23    2570    73.1    36567    9745   1.393
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     62.6     4.05    2513    77.4    32947    9677   1.456
Accurate 8700                      110.0     63.9     4.14    2473    75.1    32871    9445   1.456
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     62.6     4.05    2443    73.8    31082    9275   1.495
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     65.9     4.27    2442    71.7    31299    9422   1.489
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     59.9     3.88    2255    50.3    30036    6818   1.525
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     59.9     3.88    2229    54.6    27904    7271   1.571
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       110.0     59.9     3.88    1601    24.7    15792    3319   2.029
 
I don't have QL but I do know how well R17 and H4350 do with those bullets.

I believe I was getting around 3070fps with 4350 and 3100+fps with 17. All combos shot within about 1cm of one another in respect of point of impact.

None of the loads were compressed.

Have fun.
 
Many thanks!
I am going to start with H4831 and see how things go. Picked up some new Nosler brass as well.
 
Don't know why but I keep going back to H4831 for certain loads. I know it's an old one (like I'm getting :lol: ) but it works.
 
Dwh7271":4de7q2ok said:
Don't know why but I keep going back to H4831 for certain loads. I know it's an old one (like I'm getting :lol: ) but it works.

Exactly. It just plain works.
 
Just loaded up some using H4831sc and 130, 140 and 150 PT
Might as well try each lol
 
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