Ql request

[truck driver]

With the recent talk about H414 and W760 my curiosity has been aroused.
So could some one run a QL for me for W760 for the 35 Whelen Ackely Imp?
200gr AB 24" barrel 1-12" twist and the 225gr AB.

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .35 Whelen Ack. Imp.
Bullet             : .358, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54425
Useable Case Capaci: 67.507 grain H2O = 4.383 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Winchester 760

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   86    56.76   2300    2349   28248   6479     80.3    1.456
-18.0   88    58.18   2362    2477   30241   6723     81.9    1.417
-16.0   91    59.60   2424    2610   32387   6963     83.4    1.378
-14.0   93    61.02   2487    2747   34701   7200     84.9    1.341
-12.0   95    62.44   2551    2889   37198   7430     86.3    1.304
-10.0   97    63.86   2615    3036   39896   7654     87.7    1.261
-08.0   99    65.27   2679    3188   42816   7870     89.1    1.220
-06.0  101    66.69   2744    3344   45978   8078     90.3    1.182
-04.0  103    68.11   2809    3505   49411   8277     91.5    1.144  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  106    69.53   2875    3671   53141   8465     92.7    1.108  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  108    70.95   2941    3842   57206   8641     93.7    1.072  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  110    72.37   3008    4017   61642   8804     94.7    1.038  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  112    73.79   3074    4198   66494   8953     95.7    1.005  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  114    75.21   3142    4383   71816   9088     96.5    0.973  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  116    76.63   3209    4573   77671   9206     97.3    0.942  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  119    78.05   3277    4768   84131   9306     97.9    0.912  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    108    70.95   3113    4304   69750   8758     98.7    0.989  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    108    70.95   2724    3295   46361   8079     85.0    1.179

Cartridge          : .35 Whelen Ack. Imp.
Bullet             : .358, 225, Nosler AccuBond 50712
Useable Case Capaci: 63.391 grain H2O = 4.116 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Winchester 760

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   85    52.80   2167    2346   28413   6218     82.3    1.536
-18.0   88    54.12   2224    2472   30385   6444     83.8    1.494
-16.0   90    55.44   2282    2602   32524   6666     85.3    1.454
-14.0   92    56.76   2340    2736   34817   6883     86.7    1.414
-12.0   94    58.08   2399    2875   37289   7094     88.0    1.376
-10.0   96    59.40   2458    3018   39955   7299     89.3    1.331
-08.0   98    60.72   2517    3165   42835   7496     90.5    1.290
-06.0  100    62.04   2577    3317   45950   7685     91.7    1.249
-04.0  103    63.36   2636    3473   49324   7865     92.8    1.210  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    64.68   2697    3633   52985   8035     93.9    1.173  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  107    66.00   2757    3798   56963   8193     94.8    1.136  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  109    67.32   2818    3967   61297   8339     95.7    1.101  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  111    68.64   2879    4140   66023   8472     96.5    1.067  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  113    69.96   2940    4317   71207   8591     97.2    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  115    71.28   3001    4499   76883   8694     97.9    1.001  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  117    72.60   3062    4686   83126   8782     98.5    0.970  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    107    66.00   2911    4234   69483   8230     99.2    1.049  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    107    66.00   2559    3272   46149   7728     86.5    1.248

 

[truck driver]

Thanks DrMike. Just wondering what the default breach pressure in QL is set at for the 35 Imp?
I'm thinking 60K psi.
I can't believe the 35 AI will push a 200gr AB out of a 24" barrel at 3000fps with no drama and 2 tons of muzzle energy.

 

[baltz526]

I question the case capacity Quick load is giving. Can you get that much H414 in a case?

 

[DrMike]

Pmax(MAP) is 58015 psi.

 

[truck driver]

Thanks DrMike. Thinking that as long as I keep it under 62K psi I should be fine.

 

[truck driver]

I question the case capacity Quick load is giving. Can you get that much H414 in a case?

I just measured a load of 72.4gr of W760 in my cases fire formed in my rifle. In a Nosler 35 Whelen Ack Imp case you have .300" left in the case neck to seat a bullet. With a Rem 35 Whelen Ack Imp case you only have .150" and I don't think I would try to load a Rem case with this much powder. Both cases were virgin when I fire formed them in my rifle.

I need to get an electronic scale to get some H2O caps of my cases.

 

[baltz526]

So 10gr more than a standard 30-06 case roughly. up in the 358 Norma range