Quick Load Request 308 Norma Magnum

[TXbaldhunter]

Finally got to take my Ruger tang safety with a new 26" Shaw barrel 308 Norma Magnum to the range for a few test loads to see where it's at.I was quite impressed with the velocities.Groups where OK at 3/4",but a little load adjustment I think it will do better.I was expecting about 100fps less velocity,but really it was about as good as I'd expect from my 300 Win Mags.I think I'll try dropping down a grain or two to see if they tighten up,but I really didn't see any pressure signs with these loads.I shot one round with a 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tip loaded with 71.0grs of Hunter and it clocked at 3105fps.I used necked up Winchester once fired 7mag brass for my loads.I do have some Norma cases coming,so I'll have to compare the case capacity of the brass once I get them.There is just not a whole lot of load data out there for the 308 Norma Magnum and there are a lot more powders out there as well as bullets since the original data was compiled.I'd like to see a Quick Load for the 308 Norma Magnum,26" barrel 168gr Nosler Ballistic Tip and 180gr Nosler Balistic Tip.I have plenty of types of powder,I'll most likely be trying A-4350,IMR-4350,Hunter,Reloader-22 and Reloader-26.

 

[JD338]

Very nice. I bet RL26 will really make her sing.

JD338

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .308 Norma Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 168, Nosler BalTip 30168
Useable Case Capaci: 77.003 grain H2O = 5.000 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.346 inch = 84.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Accurate 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   88    62.19   2857    3045   45146   9714     99.4    1.380
-09.0   89    62.88   2887    3110   46682   9784     99.6    1.358
-08.0   90    63.57   2917    3175   48270   9848     99.8    1.337
-07.0   91    64.26   2947    3240   49911   9908     99.9    1.317
-06.0   91    64.95   2977    3306   51608   9962     99.9    1.297
-05.0   92    65.65   3007    3373   53363  10011    100.0    1.277
-04.0   93    66.34   3036    3439   55178  10055    100.0    1.258  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   94    67.03   3066    3506   57056  10096    100.0    1.238  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   95    67.72   3095    3573   58999  10136    100.0    1.220  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   96    68.41   3124    3641   61009  10175    100.0    1.202  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   97    69.10   3153    3708   63091  10213    100.0    1.184  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    69.79   3182    3776   65245  10250    100.0    1.166  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   99    70.48   3210    3844   67477  10287    100.0    1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  100    71.17   3239    3913   69789  10322    100.0    1.132  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  101    71.86   3267    3982   72184  10357    100.0    1.115  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  102    72.56   3296    4051   74667  10390    100.0    1.099  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    69.10   3264    3974   76106   9806    100.0    1.095  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    69.10   2982    3318   50289  10569     98.5    1.305

Cartridge          : .308 Norma Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 168, Nosler BalTip 30168
Useable Case Capaci: 77.003 grain H2O = 5.000 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.346 inch = 84.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63250 psi, or 436 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

8 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C               112.0     85.5     5.54    3335   100.0    63250   12508   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              103.8     79.2     5.13    3299   100.0    63250   11655   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       104.6     77.5     5.02    3271    99.9    63250   11806   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 106.3     77.1     5.00    3261    98.1    63250   12076   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                108.9     82.5     5.34    3252    98.8    63250   11820   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  108.7     82.4     5.34    3252    98.9    63250   11802   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    106.5     80.4     5.21    3247    96.9    63250   12113   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              112.0     79.1     5.12    3247   100.0    61725   11310   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.8     76.4     4.95    3242    98.4    63250   11665   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       104.8     76.4     4.95    3242    98.4    63250   11665   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                97.8     73.9     4.79    3240   100.0    63250   10977   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C                 111.3     81.1     5.26    3238    98.3    63250   11933   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    106.6     76.5     4.96    3236    99.3    63250   11624   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       106.6     76.5     4.96    3236    99.3    63250   11624   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              106.6     76.5     4.96    3236    99.3    63250   11624   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     109.4     76.8     4.98    3234    99.2    63250   11637   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        109.4     76.8     4.98    3234    99.2    63250   11637   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                94.9     70.7     4.58    3234   100.0    63250   10494   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        105.7     75.9     4.92    3225    98.3    63250   11561   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        109.5     80.7     5.23    3210    98.5    63250   11369   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     106.1     82.0     5.31    3209    99.6    63250   11060   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            93.9     69.9     4.53    3208   100.0    63250   10424   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               93.9     69.9     4.53    3208   100.0    63250   10424   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T            98.9     68.4     4.43    3206   100.0    63250   10423   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T                98.9     68.4     4.43    3206   100.0    63250   10423   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T               108.6     75.4     4.89    3202   100.0    63250   10394   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           108.6     75.4     4.89    3202   100.0    63250   10394   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      107.7     75.9     4.92    3196    98.0    63250   11305   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               105.4     73.3     4.75    3195   100.0    63250   10558   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C               112.0     86.2     5.59    3191    96.4    56556   12489   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        102.6     72.4     4.69    3189    99.1    63250   11009   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              103.2     73.2     4.75    3187    99.2    63250   11075   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 99.4     72.9     4.72    3186   100.0    63250   10810   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 95.5     72.2     4.68    3184   100.0    63250   10733   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   97.3     72.4     4.69    3184   100.0    63250   10505   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    109.3     79.1     5.13    3183    96.4    63250   11364   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      98.7     72.3     4.69    3182   100.0    63250   10717   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      93.2     70.0     4.53    3181    99.8    63250   10762   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        93.2     70.0     4.53    3181    99.8    63250   10762   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         103.9     73.8     4.78    3180    99.2    63250   10993   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 *C                 112.0     83.8     5.43    3171    92.8    55097   12713   1.214  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       100.5     70.9     4.60    3170   100.0    63250    9943   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        112.0     79.5     5.15    3165    98.0    56409   11876   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C                     112.0     79.5     5.15    3165    98.0    56409   11876   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        101.0     71.7     4.65    3161    99.0    63250   10786   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          101.0     71.7     4.65    3161    99.0    63250   10786   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                        97.8     71.7     4.65    3161    99.0    63250   10786   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C                  95.4     69.2     4.49    3160   100.0    63250   10391   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                        98.2     69.0     4.47    3160   100.0    63250   10257   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          98.3     69.0     4.47    3160   100.0    63250   10255   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   108.5     74.8     4.85    3157    97.7    63250   10893   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                104.3     74.8     4.85    3157    97.7    63250   10893   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                         95.8     68.0     4.41    3157   100.0    63250   10247   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       97.4     69.2     4.48    3155   100.0    63250   10216   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       103.4     74.2     4.81    3147    99.6    63250   10570   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           103.1     70.1     4.54    3140   100.0    63250   10027   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation     98.6     71.1     4.61    3136    99.7    63250   10391   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      106.6     75.6     4.90    3133   100.0    63250   10253   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             101.6     76.0     4.93    3133    99.0    63250   10493   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                 108.7     76.3     4.95    3128    99.4    63250   10306   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      101.8     71.3     4.62    3128    98.3    63250   10513   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350               97.9     68.7     4.45    3120    99.9    63250   10220   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          97.9     68.7     4.45    3120    99.9    63250   10220   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              105.5     72.8     4.72    3119    97.8    63250   10561   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        90.8     65.8     4.27    3115   100.0    63250    9915   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         112.0     75.2     4.87    3113   100.0    61808   10232   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                100.8     69.2     4.49    3113   100.0    63250    9443   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 108.7     73.9     4.79    3108    98.2    63250   10306   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        112.0     78.6     5.10    3104    97.4    56809   11116   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T                   112.0     78.6     5.10    3104    97.4    56809   11116   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       91.0     65.3     4.23    3100   100.0    63250    9540   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          91.0     65.3     4.23    3100   100.0    63250    9540   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          95.6     66.6     4.32    3100    99.6    63250   10070   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       95.6     66.6     4.32    3100    99.6    63250   10070   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        92.6     66.7     4.32    3099    99.6    63250   10062   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          96.8     67.2     4.35    3096   100.0    63250    9830   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle           96.8     67.2     4.35    3096   100.0    63250    9830   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       93.1     65.4     4.24    3095   100.0    63250    9458   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        93.3     64.8     4.20    3092   100.0    63250    9480   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       100.7     76.1     4.93    3091    97.6    63250   10284   1.169  ! Near Maximum !

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .308 Norma Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 76.003 grain H2O = 4.935 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.346 inch = 84.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Accurate 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   86    60.57   2767    3061   45398   9541     99.7    1.419
-09.0   87    61.24   2796    3124   46914   9603     99.9    1.398
-08.0   88    61.92   2824    3188   48481   9661     99.9    1.376
-07.0   89    62.59   2853    3252   50098   9714    100.0    1.356
-06.0   90    63.26   2881    3317   51769   9762    100.0    1.335
-05.0   91    63.94   2909    3381   53496   9806    100.0    1.315
-04.0   92    64.61   2937    3447   55279   9850    100.0    1.295  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   93    65.28   2964    3512   57123   9893    100.0    1.276  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   94    65.95   2992    3577   59028   9935    100.0    1.257  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   95    66.63   3019    3643   60998   9977    100.0    1.239  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   96    67.30   3046    3709   63035  10017    100.0    1.221  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   97    67.97   3074    3776   65142  10057    100.0    1.203  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   98    68.65   3101    3842   67321  10096    100.0    1.185  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   99    69.32   3127    3909   69576  10134    100.0    1.168  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  100    69.99   3154    3977   71911  10172    100.0    1.152  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  101    70.67   3181    4044   74327  10208    100.0    1.135  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     96    67.30   3148    3961   75806   9632    100.0    1.131  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     96    67.30   2889    3337   50422  10425     99.0    1.343

Cartridge          : .308 Norma Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 76.003 grain H2O = 4.935 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.346 inch = 84.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63250 psi, or 436 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

12 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C               110.8     83.5     5.41    3238   100.0    63250   12307   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              102.4     77.1     5.00    3190   100.0    63250   11456   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       103.2     75.5     4.89    3166   100.0    63250   11616   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              111.4     77.6     5.03    3165   100.0    63250   11144   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 105.0     75.2     4.87    3160    98.6    63250   11950   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                107.7     80.5     5.22    3156    99.3    63250   11704   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  107.5     80.4     5.21    3156    99.3    63250   11683   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    105.2     78.4     5.08    3149    97.5    63250   12017   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C               112.0     85.1     5.52    3148    97.7    59439   12538   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           109.5     74.5     4.83    3143    98.9    63250   11540   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       103.6     74.5     4.83    3143    98.9    63250   11540   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C                 109.9     79.1     5.13    3139    98.8    63250   11813   1.200  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              105.3     74.5     4.83    3134    99.6    63250   11471   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       105.3     74.5     4.83    3134    99.6    63250   11471   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    105.3     74.5     4.83    3134    99.6    63250   11471   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                96.5     72.1     4.67    3134   100.0    63250   10785   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        108.1     74.9     4.85    3133    99.6    63250   11488   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     108.1     74.9     4.85    3133    99.6    63250   11488   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 *C                 112.0     82.7     5.36    3130    94.6    57730   12847   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        104.5     74.0     4.80    3128    98.8    63250   11447   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                93.7     68.8     4.46    3123   100.0    63250   10306   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        108.3     78.8     5.11    3117    99.0    63250   11266   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        112.0     78.5     5.08    3113    98.9    59264   11856   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C                     112.0     78.5     5.08    3113    98.9    59264   11856   1.221  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     104.9     80.0     5.19    3111    99.9    63250   10916   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               92.6     68.1     4.41    3098   100.0    63250   10233   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            92.6     68.1     4.41    3098   100.0    63250   10233   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T            97.6     66.6     4.32    3098   100.0    63250   10225   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T                97.6     66.6     4.32    3098   100.0    63250   10225   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      106.4     74.0     4.80    3097    98.5    63250   11190   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           107.2     73.5     4.76    3094   100.0    63250   10218   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T               107.2     73.5     4.76    3094   100.0    63250   10218   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    108.1     77.3     5.01    3089    97.1    63250   11300   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        101.4     70.6     4.58    3089    99.5    63250   10868   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T               104.0     71.4     4.63    3088   100.0    63250   10364   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              101.9     71.4     4.63    3087    99.5    63250   10932   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 98.2     71.1     4.60    3083   100.0    63250   10625   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 94.3     70.4     4.56    3080   100.0    63250   10542   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         102.7     71.9     4.66    3079    99.5    63250   10853   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      97.5     70.5     4.57    3079   100.0    63250   10527   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   96.0     70.5     4.57    3078   100.0    63250   10311   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        92.0     68.2     4.42    3077   100.0    63250   10577   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      92.0     68.2     4.42    3077   100.0    63250   10577   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                        96.7     70.0     4.53    3061    99.4    63250   10650   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         99.8     70.0     4.53    3061    99.4    63250   10650   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           99.8     70.0     4.53    3061    99.4    63250   10650   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        99.1     69.1     4.48    3060   100.0    63250    9761   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   107.2     73.0     4.73    3060    98.2    63250   10792   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                103.1     73.0     4.73    3060    98.2    63250   10792   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C                  94.2     67.5     4.37    3055   100.0    63250   10204   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                        97.0     67.2     4.36    3054   100.0    63250   10069   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          97.0     67.2     4.36    3054   100.0    63250   10067   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        112.0     77.6     5.03    3053    98.5    59214   11116   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T                   112.0     77.6     5.03    3053    98.5    59214   11116   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                         94.6     66.3     4.29    3051   100.0    63250   10055   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 *C              112.0     85.1     5.52    3050    93.9    54191   12489   1.260
Accurate 4350                       96.1     67.4     4.37    3049   100.0    63250   10021   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       102.1     72.3     4.69    3047    99.8    63250   10415   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation     97.5     69.3     4.49    3036    99.9    63250   10230   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             100.4     74.2     4.81    3035    99.4    63250   10373   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           101.8     68.3     4.42    3034   100.0    63250    9843   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      105.3     73.8     4.78    3032   100.0    63250   10075   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         111.3     73.8     4.78    3032   100.0    63250   10075   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      100.7     69.5     4.51    3030    98.8    63250   10397   1.192  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                 107.4     74.5     4.82    3030    99.7    63250   10169   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              104.3     71.1     4.61    3023    98.4    63250   10464   1.192  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          96.7     67.0     4.34    3019   100.0    63250   10048   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350               96.7     67.0     4.34    3019   100.0    63250   10048   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 107.4     72.2     4.68    3012    98.7    63250   10201   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 99.5     67.5     4.37    3007   100.0    63250    9271   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        112.0     78.9     5.11    3000    99.6    51246   11570   1.288
Hodgdon Retumbo                    112.0     78.9     5.11    3000    99.6    51246   11570   1.288
Rottweil R907                       94.6     65.0     4.21    3000    99.8    63250    9917   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          94.6     65.0     4.21    3000    99.8    63250    9917   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        91.6     65.1     4.22    2999    99.8    63250    9910   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        99.6     74.3     4.82    2997    98.2    63250   10197   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle           95.6     65.5     4.25    2994   100.0    63250    9652   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          95.6     65.5     4.25    2994   100.0    63250    9652   1.211  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       91.9     63.7     4.13    2989   100.0    63250    9280   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        92.1     63.1     4.09    2986   100.0    63250    9305   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        112.0     83.6     5.42    2979    91.5    52105   12502   1.277
Shooters World BMG                 112.0     84.4     5.47    2960    89.4    60371   10597   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         112.0     84.4     5.47    2960    89.4    60371   10597   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T              108.5     75.2     4.87    2948    91.7    63250   10034   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C                112.0     83.6     5.42    2932    86.6    55157   11085   1.257  ! Near Maximum !

 

[TXbaldhunter]

Thank You Dr Mike!!!That is going to help me a lot.I knew those loads were at or a tad over max when I saw those velocities I was getting.When I look at that Quick Load data it looks like it's spot on with the velocities I was getting with my Magneto Speed.Shows you also how a chronograph is a good tool to judge if you can bump your load up or back off a bit.In my original post,I posted I wanted to back down.I look at that Quick Load data and I see very little difference between the 308 Norma Magnum and the 300 Win Mag.I have both and really like the 300 Win Mag,but in this particular rifle I chose the 308 Norma because of the rifles short length mag box.I think it was a great choice.I also chose the 308 Norma over the 30-338 because I could make my brass from 7mag or 338 Win Mag brass or use Factory 308 Norma Magnum brass that is a little longer case than the other two.7mag or 338 Win Mag brass gives you just a little shorter case,but it really doesn't hurt since chambers tend to be a little generous in that area.