Quickload request 30 USA 168 CC bullets

[clearwater]

Seems to be a dearth of load data for 30-40 Krag with 168 grain bullets. Earlier Dr Mike gave me some for a limited number of powders. I used up the Norma 203 old and the W 760 from that, those loads weren't particularly spectacular, so thought I might try some others. I have had good accuracy with Reloder 19 and 220 grain bullets in the past, but want to use the bullets and powders I have on hand.

Looking for data for at least some of these powders
Reloder 16, 17, 22
Varget, H335, Retumbo
A1680, 2460 and 2520
IMR 4350, 4895 (these I find in my Nosler Manuals, but would be nice to compare in QL with the others.)

Modern Break Action Handi Rifle in 30-40 Krag ( so pressure at SAAMI should be fine), 22 inch barrel, 168 grain Nosler Custom Competition/Ballistic tip bullets.

Also, for those looking for Krag brass, I just bought some house brand from Graff and Sons. They look to be a little more consistent in weight than the WIN I had before.

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .30-40 Krag
Bullet             : .308, 168, Nosler CC HPBT J4 53164
Useable Case Capaci: 51.102 grain H2O = 3.318 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.089 inch = 78.46 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 46400 psi, or 319 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 110.2     55.8     3.61    2664    94.7    46400   10495   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   99.2     49.0     3.18    2645    98.8    46400    9675   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       106.5     49.9     3.23    2633    99.1    46400    9277   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  98.4     48.6     3.15    2630    97.9    46400    9497   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            98.4     48.6     3.15    2630    97.9    46400    9497   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          110.1     54.1     3.51    2623    91.2    46400   10016   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 105.9     48.6     3.15    2619    97.1    46400    9321   1.181  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  103.0     50.8     3.29    2612    95.6    46400    9393   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       111.8     53.3     3.45    2591    89.3    46400    9609   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       111.8     53.3     3.45    2591    89.3    46400    9609   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 111.8     53.3     3.45    2591    89.3    46400    9609   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      103.1     48.6     3.15    2591    96.1    46400    9164   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    111.2     53.5     3.47    2585    86.0    46400    9663   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  105.2     52.8     3.42    2585    91.3    46400    9629   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          102.8     47.9     3.11    2584    95.9    46400    9067   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         102.9     47.9     3.11    2584    95.9    46400    9065   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 99.8     50.1     3.24    2582    93.5    46400    9211   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     99.6     48.0     3.11    2581    95.8    46400    9132   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     103.1     50.1     3.25    2580    93.5    46400    9197   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                103.9     50.5     3.28    2579    93.0    46400    9219   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           108.3     48.8     3.17    2574    96.2    46400    8939   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      97.4     48.5     3.14    2574    92.5    46400    9107   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        97.4     48.5     3.14    2574    92.5    46400    9107   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    112.0     56.1     3.63    2569    83.5    46249    9567   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.6     48.1     3.12    2562    97.8    46400    8579   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 107.2     50.5     3.27    2552    89.5    46400    9057   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       94.9     45.2     2.93    2552    98.4    46400    8629   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          94.9     45.2     2.93    2552    98.4    46400    8629   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       108.6     51.7     3.35    2548    91.4    46400    8912   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       108.9     52.7     3.41    2546    85.7    46400    9251   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         107.9     50.8     3.29    2546    89.4    46400    8984   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       97.1     45.2     2.93    2545    98.1    46400    8541   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       94.6     43.6     2.82    2539    99.9    46400    8226   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        106.1     49.7     3.22    2537    88.9    46400    8910   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       102.8     49.2     3.19    2534    92.0    46400    8727   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        109.4     52.1     3.38    2533    85.7    46400    9108   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        96.4     44.4     2.88    2532    97.9    46400    8451   1.216  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 112.0     51.6     3.34    2530    95.6    41708    9303   1.238  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          101.5     49.4     3.20    2530    89.2    46400    8773   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          104.8     49.4     3.20    2530    89.2    46400    8773   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        104.8     49.4     3.20    2530    89.2    46400    8773   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        93.8     45.1     2.93    2528    95.4    46400    8584   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      112.0     52.8     3.42    2525    93.0    44214    8869   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      112.0     52.4     3.39    2525    85.8    45307    8992   1.200  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     111.0     56.9     3.69    2525    88.4    46400    9113   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         101.3     47.2     3.06    2516    92.8    46400    8594   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        112.0     52.2     3.38    2512    87.4    42474    9279   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     112.0     52.2     3.38    2512    87.4    42474    9279   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             105.9     52.6     3.41    2505    88.9    46400    8569   1.191  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   108.0     51.4     3.33    2501    85.7    46400    8599   1.191  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          99.5     45.9     2.97    2500    94.3    46400    8362   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      105.2     48.8     3.17    2496    87.8    46400    8412   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      112.0     51.3     3.32    2492    85.5    45891    8563   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       98.0     45.3     2.94    2482    91.6    46400    8265   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          98.0     45.3     2.94    2482    91.6    46400    8265   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   108.5     49.7     3.22    2482    86.8    46400    8351   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        94.9     45.3     2.94    2481    91.6    46400    8259   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  112.0     56.3     3.65    2477    83.8    43666    9174   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       112.0     53.8     3.49    2472    81.9    45413    8624   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    112.0     52.2     3.38    2471    89.3    44026    8410   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                112.0     56.3     3.65    2470    83.5    43435    9147   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    112.0     50.6     3.28    2470    87.2    45870    8211   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       104.3     52.3     3.39    2466    86.4    46400    8189   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           112.0     51.3     3.32    2459    83.6    42048    8879   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        112.0     54.8     3.55    2442    82.9    44143    8669   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 112.0     52.5     3.40    2437    89.4    38573    9237   1.286
IMR 7977 Enduron                   112.0     52.2     3.38    2361    75.7    45616    7367   1.223  ! Near Maximum !

 

[clearwater]

Thanks much, That was quick. Time to load.