Rifles
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winston,
Tough to beat a Remington 700 Sendero.
Are you looking for a new or used rifle?
JD338
Tough to beat a Remington 700 Sendero.
Are you looking for a new or used rifle?
JD338
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winston,
Remington 700 Sendero is one of the most accurate rifles out of the box.
http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... _SF_II.asp
JD338
Remington 700 Sendero is one of the most accurate rifles out of the box.
http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... _SF_II.asp
JD338
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For target shooting, you will get longer barrel life with the 7mm Rem Mag.
JD338
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Guy Miner
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Winston - you just shooting informally, or do you want to compete in regular target matches of one kind or another?
NRA highpower, LR Prone & F-class are all fun.
A 7mm mag would be a little unusual for F-class or LR prone, but will work. They've been used before, along with other magnum rifles.
Just curious... Guy
NRA highpower, LR Prone & F-class are all fun.
A 7mm mag would be a little unusual for F-class or LR prone, but will work. They've been used before, along with other magnum rifles.
Just curious... Guy
Woodycreek
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I like my 300 rum Sendero. I would like to get into something like F-class or highpower. Would the 300 rum be to hot for the barrel, shooting that many rounds in a timed event?
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Woodycreek":2esf2vch said:
You would cook your barrel in short order.
A 30-06 or 308 Win would would work nicely.
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Guy Miner
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Woody - we get the occasional nut case :grin: shooting up to a .338 Lapua mag in our local F-class matches...
Most of us though use something with a tad bit less recoil & blast, and a lot more barrel life.
Regards, Guy
Most of us though use something with a tad bit less recoil & blast, and a lot more barrel life.
Regards, Guy
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Guy Miner
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There are two subdivisions of F-class: Open and F/TR.
The .308 and .223 are the only cartridges allowed in F/TR. The .308 is vastly more popular.
Open F-class sees all sorts of cartridges. Here we're seeing quite a few of the better 6mm's (6mm Dasher etc) as well as the 6.5-284. The 6.5-284 has the advantage of about the same wind-resistance as the big belted magnums, without all the blast & recoil. A well-loaded .260 Rem is also a very good contender, with almost the performance of the 6.5-284 and greater barrel life.
The .308 is so popular because of mild recoil, excellent accuracy and long barrel life. The 6's and 6.5's handily out-perform it at longer ranges though, often with less recoil.
The recoil issue is real. Muzzle brakes are not allowed, and firing from prone, a fellow can't give with the recoil the way he can from sitting or standing. The shooter just has to lay there and take it. Round after round, for 20 shots, plus two sighters, for three or four relays. By the end of the day, some guys are even complaining about the mild little .308 Winchester... Of course, that's after 70 or 80 or more rounds from prone. I shoot a .308 in prone competition and it's worked out fine for me. When I don't do well, it's because I didn't read the wind right - not because I'm shooting the wrong cartridge. A better wind cartridge though will pick up a few points over the course of a day, by not being blown into the next lower scoring ring.
Right now the web site is down, but soon http://www.long-range.com should be back up. It's dedicated to long range prone shooting, including F-class. There is a mess of great information there, from some of the biggest enthusiasts in the game.
Me? I just shoot a few matches now and then, when I can.
Regards, Guy
The .308 and .223 are the only cartridges allowed in F/TR. The .308 is vastly more popular.
Open F-class sees all sorts of cartridges. Here we're seeing quite a few of the better 6mm's (6mm Dasher etc) as well as the 6.5-284. The 6.5-284 has the advantage of about the same wind-resistance as the big belted magnums, without all the blast & recoil. A well-loaded .260 Rem is also a very good contender, with almost the performance of the 6.5-284 and greater barrel life.
The .308 is so popular because of mild recoil, excellent accuracy and long barrel life. The 6's and 6.5's handily out-perform it at longer ranges though, often with less recoil.
The recoil issue is real. Muzzle brakes are not allowed, and firing from prone, a fellow can't give with the recoil the way he can from sitting or standing. The shooter just has to lay there and take it. Round after round, for 20 shots, plus two sighters, for three or four relays. By the end of the day, some guys are even complaining about the mild little .308 Winchester... Of course, that's after 70 or 80 or more rounds from prone. I shoot a .308 in prone competition and it's worked out fine for me. When I don't do well, it's because I didn't read the wind right - not because I'm shooting the wrong cartridge. A better wind cartridge though will pick up a few points over the course of a day, by not being blown into the next lower scoring ring.
Right now the web site is down, but soon http://www.long-range.com should be back up. It's dedicated to long range prone shooting, including F-class. There is a mess of great information there, from some of the biggest enthusiasts in the game.
Me? I just shoot a few matches now and then, when I can.
Regards, Guy
Powerstroke
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I'm with Guy,
I put 20 rounds through my .300RUM last weekend prone.......never again!
This may be the answer....
http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... _SF_II.asp
I put 20 rounds through my .300RUM last weekend prone.......never again!
This may be the answer....
http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... _SF_II.asp
Woodycreek
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Powerstroke- I've put alot of rounds prone through my 300 rum sendero and a few though my new 300 rum SPS 700. You really notice the difference in felt recoil between the sendero and the sps.
Powerstroke
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Woodycreek,
I can't say I'm a big caliber fan.... the .300RUM was / is a one purpose round for me. I couldnt' imagine the SPS prone. I put a brake on my .280 M700 SS. ( whole different subject )
I can't say I'm a big caliber fan.... the .300RUM was / is a one purpose round for me. I couldnt' imagine the SPS prone. I put a brake on my .280 M700 SS. ( whole different subject )
Woodycreek
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The SPS should be one great spot and stalk rifle. But it not a rifle I take to the range and punch alot of paper.
