Guy Miner
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I am in Tasmania and all the older folks don’t mind putting stuff away but it’s hard work to gain access to it lolHello and welcome to the Nosler Forum!
I haven't seen any RL-15 for sale in a long time, it's a fine powder for the 308 Winchester. Here's some data from Alliant's website:
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Guy Miner is that max grain for the powderThey used a Speer bullet but you should be fine if you start low and work up. Nosler's 125 grain is an excellent deer bullet.
Regards, Guy
Cartridge : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler Accubond 52165
Useable Case Capaci: 50.971 grain H2O = 3.309 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 98 46.17 2837 2234 42995 8208 91.2 1.097
-09.0 99 46.68 2870 2286 44503 8313 91.8 1.080
-08.0 100 47.20 2903 2339 46068 8415 92.4 1.063
-07.0 102 47.71 2936 2392 47691 8515 92.9 1.047
-06.0 103 48.22 2969 2447 49375 8612 93.4 1.030
-05.0 104 48.74 3002 2502 51123 8707 93.9 1.014
-04.0 105 49.25 3035 2557 52938 8799 94.4 0.999 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 106 49.76 3068 2613 54823 8888 94.9 0.983 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 107 50.27 3102 2670 56781 8974 95.3 0.968 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 108 50.79 3135 2728 58816 9057 95.8 0.953 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 51.30 3168 2786 60931 9137 96.2 0.939 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 110 51.81 3201 2845 63130 9213 96.6 0.924 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 111 52.33 3235 2904 65417 9286 96.9 0.910 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 112 52.84 3268 2964 67797 9355 97.3 0.897 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 53.35 3301 3025 70275 9421 97.6 0.883 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 115 53.87 3334 3086 72856 9483 97.9 0.870 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 51.30 3255 2941 67129 9178 98.4 0.901 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 51.30 3069 2614 54882 8984 93.0 0.981 ! Near Maximum !
Cartridge : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Useable Case Capaci: 51.141 grain H2O = 3.321 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 98 46.26 2838 2235 42975 8231 91.3 1.097
-09.0 99 46.77 2871 2288 44480 8336 91.8 1.080
-08.0 100 47.29 2904 2341 46042 8438 92.4 1.063
-07.0 101 47.80 2937 2394 47662 8538 92.9 1.047
-06.0 102 48.32 2970 2448 49342 8636 93.4 1.031
-05.0 104 48.83 3003 2503 51087 8730 93.9 1.015
-04.0 105 49.34 3036 2559 52898 8823 94.4 0.999 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 106 49.86 3069 2615 54778 8912 94.9 0.984 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 107 50.37 3103 2672 56731 8998 95.4 0.968 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 108 50.89 3136 2729 58760 9081 95.8 0.954 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 51.40 3169 2787 60870 9161 96.2 0.939 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 110 51.91 3202 2846 63062 9238 96.6 0.925 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 111 52.43 3236 2906 65343 9311 97.0 0.911 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 112 52.94 3269 2966 67716 9380 97.3 0.897 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 53.46 3302 3026 70186 9446 97.6 0.883 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 114 53.97 3335 3087 72758 9508 97.9 0.870 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 51.40 3256 2942 67055 9202 98.4 0.902 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 51.40 3070 2616 54833 9009 93.0 0.982 ! Near Maximum !
Thankyou very much for your help with this I will definitely try this out on the weekendCode:Cartridge : .308 Win. (SAAMI) Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125 Useable Case Capaci: 51.141 grain H2O = 3.321 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm Powder : Alliant Reloder-15 *C Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -10.0 98 46.26 2838 2235 42975 8231 91.3 1.097 -09.0 99 46.77 2871 2288 44480 8336 91.8 1.080 -08.0 100 47.29 2904 2341 46042 8438 92.4 1.063 -07.0 101 47.80 2937 2394 47662 8538 92.9 1.047 -06.0 102 48.32 2970 2448 49342 8636 93.4 1.031 -05.0 104 48.83 3003 2503 51087 8730 93.9 1.015 -04.0 105 49.34 3036 2559 52898 8823 94.4 0.999 ! Near Maximum ! -03.0 106 49.86 3069 2615 54778 8912 94.9 0.984 ! Near Maximum ! -02.0 107 50.37 3103 2672 56731 8998 95.4 0.968 ! Near Maximum ! -01.0 108 50.89 3136 2729 58760 9081 95.8 0.954 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 109 51.40 3169 2787 60870 9161 96.2 0.939 ! Near Maximum ! +01.0 110 51.91 3202 2846 63062 9238 96.6 0.925 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +02.0 111 52.43 3236 2906 65343 9311 97.0 0.911 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +03.0 112 52.94 3269 2966 67716 9380 97.3 0.897 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.0 113 53.46 3302 3026 70186 9446 97.6 0.883 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +05.0 114 53.97 3335 3087 72758 9508 97.9 0.870 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value: +Ba 109 51.40 3256 2942 67055 9202 98.4 0.902 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value: -Ba 109 51.40 3070 2616 54833 9009 93.0 0.982 ! Near Maximum !
That is good speed. How many grains were you using? I bet its north of 45 grains, if so, what brass did you use and any heavy powder crunch? If you had powder crunch, were you able to keep the seating depth consistent as if you were loading without powder crunch?FWIW, Varget with the 168 ABLR yields 2820 fps in my 308 with .5 MOA. No reason to change anything as far as I'm concerned.
JD338
Any powder crunch?Mark,
As I recall, 46.0 grs in Nosler brass. Case life seems to be good.
JD338
Would you know the H20 with the Nosler brass? Trying to compare it to Lapua brass.Very slight with the 168 ABLR and no with the 168 BT. My COL is 2.815".
JD338
No. I'll have to check that.Would you know the H20 with the Nosler brass? Trying to compare it to Lapua brass.