Solid gun case and safe?

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ajvigs

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I am looking for a solid gun case(s) for keeping my toys in for travel/going places. Any recommendations? I need something lockable and bulletproof, and not to costly.

Also, any recommendations on a not too big, not too expensive gun safe as well?
 
Define "not too costly."
And, how many rifles/firearms do you want to carry at once?

This one is the best I've ever found for 2 rifles:
http://www.amazon.com/SKB-Military-Stan ... s=skb+roto

However, SKB makes several other excellent cases too.

This one gets excellent reviews, especially at its price point:
http://www.amazon.com/Plano-Moulding-Sh ... rifle+case

To be blunt, not too expensive gun safes are essentially useless. With a gun safe you really do get what you pay for. If you're bored go to YouTube and look for videos of breaking into gun safes - for the vast majority of $1000 safes you're better off buying firearms insurance and not a safe. :wink: The walls are made of thin metal with drywall as the "fireproofing" material - not at all strong. Good for keeping your kids away from the guns but not enough to keep any thief away.
 
I won't really speak to safes, but I can't find any reason to not use the Pelican cases. They are unreal strong, and will squeeze your rifles in safely and hold them secure. I've been using the Pelicans for about 13 years now for Marine work and for personal use and they continue to hold up and I can't remember a failure of any sort.

Patrick speaks the truth on safes and I will say this, when you decide on the size of the safe, get 1 size bigger! With the bunch of guys around here, it won't be long till you have it stuffed to the gills!
 
Many of the safes for guns are made by Liberty Safe in Orem, Utah anyhow. This includes most Browning safes. I have a Browning Morgan safe. I bought it because it will hold 28 guns and it weighs 650 pounds. This weight is high enough to keep most teenagers from walking away with it especially when you add another 150 pounds of guns.
 
I used the safe buyers guide on 6mmbr.com: Click Here

I'd love a high dollar safe, but my space is limited and when I went looking I was on a tighter budget than I am today. So I shopped around on craigslist and was able to pick up a couple of the Sentry 14 gun safes for less than the price of one new one. I'm mainly worried about fire protection as I don't have them in an area where flooding is possible. The Sentry at least offers a 1400 degree for 1/2 hour protection. I'd like to have a longer rating but to be truthful with all the accelerant (gun powder) stored in the same location I doubt the fire in that part of the garage will last more than 1/2 hour.

Another thing I feel about gun safes is they will not stop a determined criminal. My safes are light so I secured it to the concrete floor of my garage. I put them in a corner and kind of made it difficult to put any kind or tool for leverage in behind or under them by building work benches and shelves anchored in several places to the framing, that would have to ripped out first. Hopefully making it such a PITA that the burglar wouldn't want to waste time trying to get too it.

As far as rifle cases go I bought a used SKB 4 rifle case. It is heavy and "Huge" to say the least but it has been great. I have wheels on mine and when I fly to Alaska it is pretty easy to maneuver around the airport. I usually put one rifle in a soft case inside, all my ammunition, couple of fishing rods and reels, tackle, waders, rain suit, shooting sticks, knives, optics, and gun cleaning equipment and will come in close to the 50 lb. limit for the airline. I then carry on all my other gear so if I get something in AK I don't have to pay the outrageous price for a third piece of checked luggage. I'm very happy with my SKB but I think the newer models are probably lighter weight and what I've used of Pelican and Storm cases in the military, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of them either.
 
Only case the airlines have a hard time destroying would be a Pelican and what I pay for a rifle/optik combo deserves a quality case an I would not use anything else! I have 3 of them and do not regret the purchase's 1 bit!! Looking at a Browning safe at Sportsman's Warehouse, 3500.00 big black safe with lots of room left for more toys! :mrgreen:
 
HOGWILD338-378":3esnsq8n said:
Looking at a Browning safe at Sportsman's Warehouse, 3500.00 big black safe with lots of room left for more toys! :mrgreen:
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Check out the AmSec safes if you're going to spend that much.
Far, far better safe than the Browning if you're worried about anyone actually getting inside the safe.

Oldtrader3":3esnsq8n said:
Many of the safes for guns are made by Liberty Safe in Orem, Utah anyhow. This includes most Browning safes. I have a Browning Morgan safe. I bought it because it will hold 28 guns and it weighs 650 pounds. This weight is high enough to keep most teenagers from walking away with it especially when you add another 150 pounds of guns.
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A few years ago I probably would have bought a Liberty like my Dad or a Browning like my shooting partner. That is, until I read up on safes, the ease at which they can be entered, and how poorly the majority are designed. Google can find you plenty of info if you want.

My AmSec weighs over 1500 pounds and has walls filled with concrete. There is no way it's moving anywhere - probably not even if I move. :shock:

Watch this (and YouTube has plenty of others):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M
 
I have an AMSEC safe now and it is bolted to the floor and will not be going anywhere! :)
Guess I will see if they have some on sale at the AMSEC dealer here in ABQ!! The Browning looked like it was a pretty secure safe ? Way more lock bolts than my AMSEC ? 2 minutes is stupid fast but the safe was in the middle of a room and could be tipped which is going to be hard to do to,a safe that is bolted to the floor :grin:
I also have a rider policy with my insurance Company! :mrgreen:
 
I was Mgr. of Tool Engineering at Weiser Lock Company years ago and most gun safes only have a 4 pin cylinder in the lock. So picking the lock and getting into the safe for a pro is no problem. The pro then is dealing with a combination of three numbers that are always the same number of turns in the same direction. With the last turn being CW back to "0"

The trick is not to have enough value in your safe to make it worth their while. So in this case, you are dealing with kids, who if you have the safe lag bolted to a concrete floor are not going to break into a good safe anyhow. So I sleep at night.

I worry mostly about fire and going past the time rating rating.
 
I have a heavy duty aluminum case from Cabela's for two rifles. Its been to Alaska and several other western states by commercial airliner, with no problems at all. Its almost bullet proof. My safes are both National Security, 6 locking lugs.
 
...one trick you can use for a hard gun case is remove the open cell foam & replace it w/ sheets of closed cell (think "backpacking pad", cut to fit, 2 sheets per side is what I used), then put your soft cased guns in the hard case...
 
Get a Pelican 1750 double case and don't look back. I also have a Liberty safe.

JD338
 
I think that this safe is made by Liberty? Without going and looking at one, I will not comment on these products. I do not know about the safe? Mine cost 300% of what this one costs, also on sale. That may not be a problem but without seeing one, I have to pass. The nearest Cabela's to me is 75 miles away.
 
JD338":2487fexk said:
Get a Pelican 1750 double case and don't look back. I also have a Liberty safe.

JD338
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I did just that; 1750 double case on sale right now at Cabelas
 
If you don't mind the wait, I would look at the Fort Knox safes. I have the Titan. I had to wait several months for them to make it, but it was worth the wait. I was able to obtain a much better deal on the safe than their advertised retail price. The Fort Knox safe is twice the safe of any other safe I have ever seen. At 1900 lbs and a fire rating of 1680 degrees for 90 minutes, this safe was the absolute best safe that I could find.
 
runtohunt":1hwuh24b said:
If you don't mind the wait, I would look at the Fort Knox safes. I have the Titan. I had to wait several months for them to make it, but it was worth the wait. I was able to obtain a much better deal on the safe than their advertised retail price. The Fort Knox safe is twice the safe of any other safe I have ever seen. At 1900 lbs and a fire rating of 1680 degrees for 90 minutes, this safe was the absolute best safe that I could find.
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My dealer also sold Fort Knox safes - I would agree that they are very good safes.
 
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