i loaded up some 50 gr. bt , 55 gr. hp and some 55 blitzkings . 34 gr varget and they cases were filthy when i ejected them. it seemed to have alot of residue. cci large benchrest primers were used. just wondering if this is a common thing with this powder? 50 gr. held the best accuracy. any suggestions ?
varget in 22 250
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YoteSmoker
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I burn the same powder in my 250 and 308. Can't recall it being out of the ordinary on filth factor.
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There might be the possibility that you're low in the pressure department.
When you are the case does not expand to fill the whole chamber hence unburned powder and soot escape the mouth of the case and sneak up on the outside.
What velocity are you getting?
When you are the case does not expand to fill the whole chamber hence unburned powder and soot escape the mouth of the case and sneak up on the outside.
What velocity are you getting?
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According to Q/L you're running about 44K psi. Well below max. Hence your sooted cases.
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Pending on rifle you can add 2-3 grains more for the 50 grain Blitzking. Now remember as is your load is not hurting anything. Just dirties the brass. You should be running 3500 fps with the 34gr Varget/ 50 gr.
Cartridge : .22-250 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .224, 50, Sierra SP Blitz 1340
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.350 inch or 59.69 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.754% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-17.5 76 28.04 2947 964 26541 6729 84.6 1.344
-15.8 78 28.63 3006 1003 27956 6920 85.7 1.318
-14.0 79 29.23 3065 1043 29445 7109 86.9 1.292
-12.3 81 29.82 3123 1083 31010 7295 88.0 1.267
-10.5 83 30.42 3182 1124 32658 7477 89.0 1.243
-08.8 84 31.02 3241 1166 34391 7655 90.0 1.219
-07.0 86 31.61 3300 1209 36214 7829 91.0 1.196
-05.3 88 32.21 3359 1252 38121 7998 91.9 1.169
-03.5 89 32.81 3417 1297 40109 8162 92.8 1.142
-01.8 91 33.40 3476 1341 42191 8320 93.7 1.116
+00.0 92 34.00 3534 1387 44380 8473 94.5 1.091
+01.8 94 34.60 3593 1433 46681 8619 95.2 1.067
+03.5 96 35.19 3651 1480 49102 8759 95.9 1.043
+05.3 97 35.79 3709 1527 51649 8891 96.5 1.020
+07.0 99 36.39 3767 1576 54329 9016 97.1 0.997
+08.8 100 36.98 3825 1624 57150 9133 97.7 0.975 ! Near Maximum !
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 92 34.00 3714 1532 52002 8648 98.8 1.015
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 92 34.00 3312 1218 36903 7960 87.0 1.189
Cartridge : .22-250 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .224, 50, Sierra SP Blitz 1340
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.350 inch or 59.69 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.754% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-17.5 76 28.04 2947 964 26541 6729 84.6 1.344
-15.8 78 28.63 3006 1003 27956 6920 85.7 1.318
-14.0 79 29.23 3065 1043 29445 7109 86.9 1.292
-12.3 81 29.82 3123 1083 31010 7295 88.0 1.267
-10.5 83 30.42 3182 1124 32658 7477 89.0 1.243
-08.8 84 31.02 3241 1166 34391 7655 90.0 1.219
-07.0 86 31.61 3300 1209 36214 7829 91.0 1.196
-05.3 88 32.21 3359 1252 38121 7998 91.9 1.169
-03.5 89 32.81 3417 1297 40109 8162 92.8 1.142
-01.8 91 33.40 3476 1341 42191 8320 93.7 1.116
+00.0 92 34.00 3534 1387 44380 8473 94.5 1.091
+01.8 94 34.60 3593 1433 46681 8619 95.2 1.067
+03.5 96 35.19 3651 1480 49102 8759 95.9 1.043
+05.3 97 35.79 3709 1527 51649 8891 96.5 1.020
+07.0 99 36.39 3767 1576 54329 9016 97.1 0.997
+08.8 100 36.98 3825 1624 57150 9133 97.7 0.975 ! Near Maximum !
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 92 34.00 3714 1532 52002 8648 98.8 1.015
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 92 34.00 3312 1218 36903 7960 87.0 1.189
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Work up slow and you will do fine.
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I shoot a M700 VLS 22-250. Avg MV is 3740 fps with no pressure signs and the cases are clean.
JD338
I shoot a M700 VLS 22-250. Avg MV is 3740 fps with no pressure signs and the cases are clean.
JD338
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Quickload called that load huh? Not too bad!
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Nosler's max load with Varget and 50 grain bullet is 36.0 grains, also shows it to be the most accurate. They do not have anything for the 55 grain bullet.
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This load was taken out of the Sierra Manual....
NOTE: Nosler shows this over max I belive.
I can interchage the BlitzKings & B-Tips w/ the same POI
55gr flavor that is
NOTE: Nosler shows this over max I belive.
I can interchage the BlitzKings & B-Tips w/ the same POI
55gr flavor that is
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P.S. Don't use the B-kings if you're wanting to save pelts :grin:
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I do notice smoky necks when I load light for range use at 200 yds.
Best load does not smoke up necks : Speer 50gr. TNT (used because they are cheap in bulk and do perform well). 36gr of military surplus 852f (uses H380 data). Win. Std. Large Rifle primers. S&B cases. Shoots consistant 2" groups at 200 yards, when the wind is not up.
The 50gr. TNT bullets buck wind better than the lighter bullets that I was using and when I can connect on prairie dogs, the TNT acts as it is named. 55gr V-Max flies well and kills quickly but is more expensive than is the Speer TNT and the PDs do not notice any difference. I tried 55gr. FMJ bullets, pulled from Malaysian milsurp ammo and it flew well, but did not kill anywhere near as cleanly as do the frangible bullets.
Steven A.
Best load does not smoke up necks : Speer 50gr. TNT (used because they are cheap in bulk and do perform well). 36gr of military surplus 852f (uses H380 data). Win. Std. Large Rifle primers. S&B cases. Shoots consistant 2" groups at 200 yards, when the wind is not up.
The 50gr. TNT bullets buck wind better than the lighter bullets that I was using and when I can connect on prairie dogs, the TNT acts as it is named. 55gr V-Max flies well and kills quickly but is more expensive than is the Speer TNT and the PDs do not notice any difference. I tried 55gr. FMJ bullets, pulled from Malaysian milsurp ammo and it flew well, but did not kill anywhere near as cleanly as do the frangible bullets.
Steven A.
In my Tikka T3 Lite .22-250 I use Win. brass, Fed. GM Match 210 primer & 36.0 gr. Varget pushing a 55 Hornady Vmax. This shoots a very tight 3 shot clover leaf at 100 yards consistently, almost the same hole. 55 Blitzkings are almost as good. I also discovered that I can shoot a 60 gr. NP 3 shot 1" group at 100 yards (without adjusting the sight) using 30.0 gr. Varget. Would be interesting to try on a pig under 200 yards. :grin:
