Wet newspaper vs 25g .17cal Vmax vs 22LR 40g

bobnob

Handloader
Nov 3, 2012
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Thought I’d see how a 17 calibre varmint bullet would fare in the wet newspaper test. I’m almost exclusively using the Hornady 25g Vmax in the 17 Fireball at present, loaded to a mild 3500fps muzzle velocity from the 20” bbl. Accuracy is excellent with this load.

I stacked up a wad of 9” of wet newspaper, though not totally saturated as it had a couple of winter days to slightly dry. I figured 9” would be enough to capture and stop the Vmax at the distance of 50 yards I intended to shoot it. It certainly was enough.

For a fun comparison I thought I’d shoot a 22LR 40g high velocity solid into the same stack at the same distance.

So the results:

25g Vmax
Impact speed 3250fps
Penetration 3.5 inches
Retained weight 6g
Expanded diameter .300

Here’s the interesting bit - the 40g 22LR which would have impacted around 1100fps at 50y - sailed right through the 9 inches of newspaper and if not for the dirt bank, might still be going as far as I know!

The 22 obviously expanded very little if at all from the looks of the newspaper.

Anyway a couple of pics. The Fireball is the top hole...

One inch into the stack

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Two inches

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Three inches

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The recovered Vmax

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The shallow penetration, explosive expansion and almost complete breakup of the Vmax didn’t surprise me. The complete penetration by the 22 did take me aback just a bit. I thought 9” of semi dried paper would have stopped it!

Hope someone finds some interest in this test.




 

Guy Miner

Master Loader
Apr 6, 2006
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Ya, often a bullet at lower velocity can have tremendous penetration.

Cool test. Thank you.
 

mjcmichigan

Handloader
Dec 26, 2016
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Yes. Interesting. Have a friend that likes to run the deer off his crops. He’s using a 223REM Frangible bullets and aiming 10 yards short. Does not want to injure them. Told him I’d handle, they’d not feel a thing and wouldn’t come back... he did not like my attempt at humor, bust asked about the 17 cal...


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SJB358

Ballistician
Dec 24, 2006
31,416
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Cool test Bob! I have never used anything but the 17 HMR but the .17 cals are pretty interesting. Seem like dynamite on small animals..
 
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