what is a good powder to download the 300RUM

[cold_hunter]

i will be loading 165gr. bullets and i want to slow them down so the gun can be shot with comfort.(not knocking out my fillings) i just am wondering about a good powder to use so i can keep small groups and ac
hieve my goal. thanks for any help.
ps i do want the neck to seal so i dont get soot on the cases

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge : .300 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler AccuBond 55602
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.598 inch or 91.39 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 3.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-30.0 51 46.20 2146 1687 21249 6964 96.8 1.890
-27.0 53 48.18 2217 1802 23078 7263 97.9 1.835
-24.0 55 50.16 2288 1918 25035 7541 98.7 1.782
-21.0 57 52.14 2357 2036 27125 7795 99.4 1.731
-18.0 59 54.12 2425 2155 29355 8023 99.8 1.683
-15.0 62 56.10 2492 2275 31728 8225 100.0 1.637
-12.0 64 58.08 2557 2395 34252 8404 100.0 1.593
-09.0 66 60.06 2620 2515 36931 8578 100.0 1.550
-06.0 68 62.04 2682 2635 39775 8749 100.0 1.497
-03.0 70 64.02 2742 2754 42789 8916 100.0 1.448
+00.0 72 66.00 2801 2874 45983 9081 100.0 1.401
+03.0 75 67.98 2858 2994 49366 9242 100.0 1.357
+06.0 77 69.96 2915 3113 52947 9399 100.0 1.315
+09.0 79 71.94 2971 3234 56738 9553 100.0 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
+12.0 81 73.92 3026 3354 60750 9703 100.0 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
+15.0 83 75.90 3080 3475 64996 9850 100.0 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 72 66.00 2869 3015 52507 8885 100.0 1.319
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 72 66.00 2699 2670 39236 9362 100.0 1.508

 

[Richracer1]

i will be loading 165gr. bullets and i want to slow them down so the gun can be shot with comfort.(not knocking out my fillings) i just am wondering about a good powder to use so i can keep small groups and ac
hieve my goal. thanks for any help.
ps i do want the neck to seal so i dont get soot on the cases

I'm curious, why did you buy a 300RUM when your looking for 30-06 performance. :?

 

[JD338]

i will be loading 165gr. bullets and i want to slow them down so the gun can be shot with comfort.(not knocking out my fillings) i just am wondering about a good powder to use so i can keep small groups and ac
hieve my goal. thanks for any help.
ps i do want the neck to seal so i dont get soot on the cases

I'm curious, why did you buy a 300RUM when your looking for 30-06 performance. :?

Same question to Remington, Power Level ammunition.
PL I is 30-06
PL II is 300 Win Mag
PL III is 300 RUM

For Remington, is all about marketing.

For us hand loaders, its flexibility. You can target shoot with less powder consumption, barrel wear and recoil.

JD338

 

[cold_hunter]

well rich its like this. its not my gun im doing a favor for a friend. and he didnt ask before he went out and bought the thing and now he wants to put a brake on it. and he cant even sight it in. so i said ill find some primers and make some handloads so he can shoot the darn gun at least. and if remington can load the power level ammo so can i.

 

[Richracer1]

well rich its like this. its not my gun im doing a favor for a friend. and he didnt ask before he went out and bought the thing and now he wants to put a brake on it. and he cant even sight it in. so i said ill find some primers and make some handloads so he can shoot the darn gun at least. and if remington can load the power level ammo so can i.

No worries, I was just curious. I have a 300RUM shooting 200ABs, so I know what it's like, but I bought mine to shoot heavy 30 cal bullets fast. Anyway, good luck with your friends RUM, and keep us posted.

 

[cold_hunter]

ya i wasnt trying to be a d..k or anything i just have method to my madness and people always question me about the things i do. and trust me i understand. he would have been better off with a 300win but he has alot more money than gun knowledge and his friend owns the gun store

 

[hardpan]

Cold Hunter,
I would definitely use the brake, and then look at the 200 AccuBond. Felt recoil will be way down, and the bullet at .588 ballistic coeff. is outstanding. A good brake will not slow down the bullet, and the knockdown is incredible. the 165 load will be faster, for accuracy, I ended up around 3200 fps, with the 200 AccuBond, i was around 3050 fps, better knockdown, same felt recoil and single hole groups. that is an amazing gun and combined with the 200 gr AB, an amazing combination. But, that brake is necessary.
best of luck,
hardpan.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

To down load it, I'd try H5010.
Slow and bulky, and cheap when bought as surplus.
It give nice mild, and accurate loads for my 7mm STW.

 

[cold_hunter]

thanks sniper i kind of wanted to steer my buddy away from the brake he plans to go on some hunts to alaska and im told guides dont like them much. and the down loaded shells will be used here in north dakota. i will work them up to full when he can handle it. but its all about practice and flexibillity. not to take away from anyone else but ive watched this forum for awhile and sniper you seem to be right on or both of us are way off.

 

[Richracer1]

Take a look at
IMR 7828, Hodgdon listed starting load of 84.5gn @ 2985fps
or
IMR 4831, Hodgdon listed starting load of 80gn @ 2951 fps
or
IMR 4350, Hodgdon listed starting load of 78gn @ 2985 fps

You might be able to play with the above listed starting loads, but do so in very small increments, say maybe in quarter to half grain steps.
Also, shooting the 165gn bullet will reduce the recoil some as it doesn't take as much to propel it as a 200gn bullet.

 

[Greg Nolan]

The nice thing about getting the biggest fastest cartrige is that you can download to whatever velocity you want and still have the option of going max power if you want to. I have been told about guides and muzzle brakes but in my experiences with guides they really care more about your ability to make the shot they spent hours/days getting you in position for than whether the rifle goes bang or BANG. If the guide is worth his reputation at intuition and experience he'll figure out how to put his fingers in his ears or move behind you. Mine have without hesitation and would rather you use a more powerfull caliber"IF" you can shoot it well because that means less tracking and lost game. My 10 cents worth :roll:
Good luck on your loading and I hope your friend does well on his hunting trip. :grin:

 

[cold_hunter]

hey rich thanks alot, i have alot of IMR4350 on hand so i will start with that. i had to do some trading to come up with some Fed. 215's cause magnum primers are nowhere to be found up here in north dakota. i ended up with 200 and im lucky. thanks to everybody for the info.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Thanks for the compliment Cold Hunter. I appreciate it.
I'm sure you will find some good load for it.