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 Post subject: Quickload Request 6.5 Creedmoor Barnes 120TTSX 62K
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:21 am 

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22' barrel. Looking for R26, H4350, R17, N560, Big Game & Hunter? Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Quickload Request 6.5 Creedmoor Barnes 120TTSX 62K
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:14 am 

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Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 120, Barnes 'TTSX'BT S 30242
Useable Case Capaci: 49.622 grain H2O = 3.222 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   97    47.61   2776    2053   42762  12055     96.7    1.227
-09.0   98    48.14   2811    2106   44343  12189     97.2    1.209
-08.0   99    48.67   2847    2160   45996  12315     97.7    1.192
-07.0  100    49.20   2883    2215   47723  12433     98.1    1.174
-06.0  101    49.73   2919    2271   49529  12543     98.5    1.156
-05.0  102    50.26   2955    2327   51419  12644     98.8    1.139
-04.0  103    50.78   2992    2385   53397  12736     99.1    1.120
-03.0  104    51.31   3028    2442   55468  12819     99.4    1.100  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    51.84   3064    2501   57633  12893     99.6    1.081  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  106    52.37   3100    2560   59914  12956     99.8    1.061  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  108    52.90   3136    2620   62301  13009     99.9    1.043  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  109    53.43   3172    2681   64808  13052    100.0    1.024  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  110    53.96   3208    2742   67441  13085    100.0    1.006  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  111    54.49   3244    2803   70209  13109    100.0    0.988  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  112    55.02   3279    2866   73121  13132    100.0    0.970  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  113    55.55   3315    2928   76187  13153    100.0    0.952  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    108    52.90   3299    2899   78933  12365    100.0    0.951  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    108    52.90   2893    2230   49010  12917     94.6    1.157


Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 120, Barnes 'TTSX'BT S 30242
Useable Case Capaci: 49.622 grain H2O = 3.222 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62350 psi, or 429 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 107.6     52.9     3.43    3136    99.9    62350   13010   1.042  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          108.3     51.7     3.35    3097    98.5    62350   12927   1.044  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   98.2     47.1     3.05    3085   100.0    62350   11643   1.039  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  104.4     50.9     3.30    3075    98.8    62350   12543   1.037  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    109.9     51.4     3.33    3073    95.1    62350   12940   1.044  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            97.2     46.7     3.02    3061   100.0    62350   11576   1.046  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  97.2     46.7     3.02    3061   100.0    62350   11576   1.046  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.2     51.0     3.30    3059    97.2    62350   12594   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       110.2     51.0     3.30    3059    97.2    62350   12594   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.2     51.0     3.30    3059    97.2    62350   12594   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.2     53.6     3.47    3058    93.4    62350   12901   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  112.0     54.7     3.54    3052    95.9    62350   12665   1.038  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       108.0     50.8     3.29    3048    95.4    62350   12497   1.038  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                112.0     54.7     3.54    3048    95.7    62101   12664   1.040  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 104.0     46.3     3.00    3033   100.0    62350   11445   1.057  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        108.8     50.3     3.26    3032    95.3    62350   12347   1.039  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       104.1     47.4     3.07    3031   100.0    62350   11047   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.7     48.2     3.13    3026    99.8    62350   11673   1.064  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     109.3     54.5     3.53    3023    97.5    62350   12011   1.041  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 112.0     50.1     3.25    3023   100.0    59917   11631   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        112.0     50.7     3.28    3022    96.6    60059   12479   1.066  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     112.0     50.7     3.28    3022    96.6    60059   12479   1.066  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                102.8     48.5     3.14    3019    98.9    62350   11848   1.054  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 98.7     48.1     3.12    3018    99.1    62350   11790   1.055  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     101.9     48.1     3.12    3017    99.1    62350   11773   1.055  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      111.2     50.5     3.27    3014    95.0    62350   12110   1.050  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 106.5     48.7     3.16    3011    97.0    62350   11963   1.050  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      96.3     46.6     3.02    3010    98.5    62350   11758   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        96.3     46.6     3.02    3010    98.5    62350   11758   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        105.8     48.1     3.12    3009    96.8    62350   11865   1.043  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         107.2     49.1     3.18    3004    97.0    62350   11870   1.050  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          101.4     45.9     2.97    3001    99.8    62350   11364   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         101.5     45.9     2.98    3001    99.8    62350   11361   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     98.5     46.0     2.98    2999    99.8    62350   11489   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      100.6     46.0     2.98    2996    99.8    62350   11340   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        112.0     53.2     3.45    2989    94.9    61187   12076   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          100.9     47.6     3.09    2984    96.7    62350   11619   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        104.2     47.6     3.09    2984    96.7    62350   11619   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          104.2     47.6     3.09    2984    96.7    62350   11619   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           106.4     46.6     3.02    2983    99.9    62350   11126   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           112.0     49.8     3.23    2980    94.4    58142   12257   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       106.7     49.3     3.20    2975    97.9    62350   11495   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       112.0     52.2     3.38    2973    92.4    61528   11946   1.051  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      111.8     49.7     3.22    2973    94.6    62350   11609   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   107.4     49.7     3.22    2973    94.6    62350   11609   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      110.0     50.3     3.26    2968    99.0    62350   11274   1.079  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                104.2     46.1     2.99    2967   100.0    62350   10485   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       101.7     47.2     3.06    2965    98.2    62350   11305   1.064  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 112.0     51.0     3.30    2962    98.7    54218   12299   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             104.7     50.5     3.27    2958    96.7    62350   11305   1.054  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    112.0     50.7     3.28    2953    97.4    62041   11166   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        93.5     43.7     2.83    2953    99.7    62350   10935   1.073  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          93.9     43.4     2.81    2951   100.0    62350   10547   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       93.9     43.4     2.81    2951   100.0    62350   10547   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         100.9     45.6     2.96    2950    98.6    62350   11148   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      104.8     47.3     3.06    2947    95.6    62350   11254   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       96.0     43.4     2.81    2945   100.0    62350   10469   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        96.1     43.0     2.79    2940   100.0    62350   10477   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   108.5     48.3     3.13    2936    94.9    62350   11253   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          99.6     44.6     2.89    2930    99.3    62350   10787   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    111.8     49.0     3.18    2929    95.5    62350   11031   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          98.4     44.2     2.86    2926    97.9    62350   10911   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       98.4     44.2     2.86    2926    97.9    62350   10911   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        95.3     44.2     2.87    2925    97.9    62350   10903   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       93.3     41.7     2.70    2911   100.0    62350    9865   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       103.6     50.5     3.27    2910    94.6    62350   10969   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        112.0     51.2     3.32    2858    92.8    49184   12236   1.163
Norma MRP 2                        112.0     51.2     3.32    2858    92.8    49184   12236   1.163
Lovex S071                         112.0     48.4     3.14    2846    97.9    54269   10979   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    112.0     54.0     3.50    2831    84.8    48273   12596   1.167
IMR 7977 Enduron                   112.0     50.7     3.28    2826    85.9    61453   10363   1.071  ! Near Maximum !

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 Post subject: Re: Quickload Request 6.5 Creedmoor Barnes 120TTSX 62K
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:29 am 

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Jim, 17 is your Huckleberry with the 120's and even 130's. If you were so inclined to try the 127 LRX, 17 will tear down 2950 pretty easily..

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Thanks guys! That is some impressive speeds for a 22" barrel, to me anyhow! ha I figured I'd be lucky to get 2850 or so. Of course, I still have to get the rifle ( another Mesa) in my hot little hands before I can wring it out! Either of you guys ever try the 139 Scenar in the Creedmoor ( or similar 260, 6.5 Swede?)


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Heck yes! In my opinion and people may freak out, it is a wicked killer. While it isn't labeled "hunting" it works more like a thick jacketed cup and a core than a Berger or ELD sorta bullet. It's what I run in my AR10 and occasionally in my bolt gun. It is fast, easy to make accurate and works excellent on deer. I can't find anything to say it doesn't work as well as a BT. I think it has a harder allow lead core which tends to mushroom more than just disintegrate.

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What is your load, can you share it with me? :)


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Hornady brass, 40.5 of 17, CCI BR2.

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How fast is it? Not that it really matters, just curious of "real world" speeds with the Creed?


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Is there a combination that will shoot a 140gr bullet ( any) to a soild 2800fps from a 22" Creed? How close then, if not? To me, it seems that 140@2800 has been a Gold Standard for the 7x57 for a long, long time! Same for 7mm/08.


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Does QL show the Scenar 139? If so, could you run some numbers? Thanks.


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Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 139, Lapua Scenar GB458 6018 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 49.145 grain H2O = 3.191 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   94    45.99   2610    2103   42101  12062     98.4    1.331
-09.0   95    46.50   2643    2156   43701  12173     98.8    1.308
-08.0   97    47.01   2676    2211   45371  12276     99.1    1.284
-07.0   98    47.52   2709    2266   47116  12370     99.4    1.262
-06.0   99    48.03   2742    2321   48937  12455     99.6    1.240
-05.0  100    48.55   2775    2377   50840  12531     99.7    1.218
-04.0  101    49.06   2808    2434   52828  12598     99.9    1.196
-03.0  102    49.57   2841    2491   54907  12654    100.0    1.175  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  103    50.08   2873    2548   57085  12701    100.0    1.155  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  104    50.59   2906    2606   59362  12740    100.0    1.134  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    51.10   2938    2664   61747  12777    100.0    1.115  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  106    51.61   2970    2723   64247  12813    100.0    1.095  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  107    52.12   3002    2782   66868  12847    100.0    1.076  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  108    52.63   3034    2842   69618  12880    100.0    1.057  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  109    53.14   3066    2902   72503  12911    100.0    1.038  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  110    53.66   3098    2962   75536  12941    100.0    1.020  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    51.10   3076    2920   78662  12173    100.0    1.017  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    51.10   2725    2292   47899  13047     96.8    1.244


Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet             : .264, 139, Lapua Scenar GB458 6018 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 49.145 grain H2O = 3.191 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.935 inch = 74.55 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62350 psi, or 429 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 105.2     51.2     3.32    2946   100.0    62350   12786   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          105.9     50.1     3.24    2915    99.5    62350   12868   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    107.5     49.8     3.23    2901    97.1    62350   13046   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  102.3     49.4     3.20    2898    99.8    62350   12468   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.1     53.2     3.45    2892    97.8    62350   12821   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  109.9     53.1     3.44    2892    97.9    62350   12804   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    107.9     51.9     3.37    2891    95.7    62350   13078   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   96.0     45.6     2.96    2884   100.0    62350   11422   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 107.8     49.4     3.20    2882    98.7    62350   12607   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       107.8     49.4     3.20    2882    98.7    62350   12607   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       107.8     49.4     3.20    2882    98.7    62350   12607   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           111.9     49.3     3.19    2881    97.5    62350   12602   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       105.9     49.3     3.19    2881    97.5    62350   12602   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.7     49.6     3.21    2880    98.6    62350   12618   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.7     49.6     3.21    2880    98.6    62350   12618   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        106.7     48.9     3.17    2865    97.3    62350   12467   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 110.7     49.0     3.18    2863   100.0    62350   11464   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  94.9     45.1     2.92    2861   100.0    62350   11343   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            94.9     45.1     2.92    2861   100.0    62350   11343   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     107.3     52.9     3.43    2858    99.1    62350   12053   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 112.0     50.5     3.27    2858   100.0    58324   12348   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.5     52.0     3.37    2851    97.4    62350   12297   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      108.9     49.0     3.17    2842    97.0    62350   12201   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 101.5     44.8     2.90    2838   100.0    62350   11198   1.125  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   98.4     46.7     3.03    2837   100.0    62350   11465   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                100.5     47.0     3.05    2837    99.7    62350   11749   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        103.6     46.7     3.02    2835    98.4    62350   11888   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 104.2     47.2     3.06    2835    98.5    62350   11970   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 96.5     46.6     3.02    2835    99.8    62350   11672   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      99.7     46.6     3.02    2833    99.8    62350   11655   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       101.6     45.8     2.97    2829   100.0    62350   10832   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      94.1     45.1     2.92    2829    99.5    62350   11665   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        94.1     45.1     2.92    2829    99.5    62350   11665   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         105.0     47.6     3.08    2828    98.5    62350   11883   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.3     51.0     3.30    2827    95.1    62350   12213   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           99.2     44.5     2.88    2813   100.0    62350   11153   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          99.2     44.5     2.88    2813   100.0    62350   11150   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     96.4     44.6     2.89    2813   100.0    62350   11293   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       98.4     44.6     2.89    2810   100.0    62350   11124   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        102.0     46.2     2.99    2810    98.3    62350   11636   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           98.8     46.2     2.99    2810    98.3    62350   11636   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          102.0     46.2     2.99    2810    98.3    62350   11636   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      109.5     48.2     3.13    2806    96.7    62350   11725   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   105.3     48.2     3.13    2806    96.7    62350   11725   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       104.5     47.8     3.10    2801    99.1    62350   11466   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           104.1     45.2     2.93    2797   100.0    62350   10916   1.137  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      107.8     48.8     3.16    2792    99.8    62350   11186   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        99.6     45.8     2.97    2789    99.3    62350   11251   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             102.6     49.0     3.18    2788    98.3    62350   11350   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    109.8     49.2     3.19    2785    98.9    62350   11179   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      102.7     45.9     2.97    2779    97.4    62350   11312   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                101.9     44.6     2.89    2775   100.0    62350   10272   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          98.8     44.3     2.87    2774    99.5    62350   11059   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        112.0     50.7     3.29    2773    96.3    52996   12699   1.195
Bofors RP30                        112.0     50.7     3.29    2773    96.3    52996   12699   1.195
IMR 4955 Enduron                   106.4     46.9     3.04    2770    96.9    62350   11349   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        91.5     42.4     2.75    2770   100.0    62350   10749   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    112.0     53.5     3.47    2766    89.9    51767   13406   1.200
Vihtavuori N160                    109.7     47.6     3.09    2763    97.3    62350   11106   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          91.9     42.1     2.73    2760   100.0    62350   10337   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       91.9     42.1     2.73    2760   100.0    62350   10337   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       93.9     42.1     2.73    2755   100.0    62350   10253   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          96.4     42.9     2.78    2752    99.1    62350   10851   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       96.4     42.9     2.78    2752    99.1    62350   10851   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          97.6     43.2     2.80    2752    99.9    62350   10650   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        93.4     42.9     2.78    2752    99.1    62350   10844   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        94.1     41.7     2.70    2751   100.0    62350   10263   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       101.6     49.0     3.18    2748    96.6    62350   11076   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         112.0     48.0     3.11    2741    99.6    58423   11089   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        112.0     50.2     3.25    2720    95.6    53907   11852   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      112.0     50.2     3.25    2720    95.6    53907   11852   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       91.4     40.5     2.62    2717   100.0    62350    9683   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron                   110.5     49.5     3.21    2693    89.1    62350   10704   1.126  ! Near Maximum !

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Wow and "Hot Dog", ha. Thank you so much young man! :)


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I get about 2775 from my 6.5 Swede and 147 ELDs. 2800 shouldn’t be a big truck with a few powders.

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I can remember as a teenager there were lots of 6.5 "Eyetalians" ( surplus sporters) and many deer, and later (after Stock Law took affect) many hogs. I only saw the heavy roundnose in use. As the Italian is a bit less than the Swede, it apparently doesn't take a lot of speed for anything similar to be a good killer.


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preacher wrote:
I can remember as a teenager there were lots of 6.5 "Eyetalians" ( surplus sporters) and many deer, and later (after Stock Law took affect) many hogs. I only saw the heavy roundnose in use. As the Italian is a bit less than the Swede, it apparently doesn't take a lot of speed for anything similar to be a good killer.


No, I’d agree Jim. I think we all get trapped in our heads about 100-200 FPS one way or the other. If you just gotta have the speed, you’ve gotta have it, but man, the days when we just loaded a cartridge with the most accurate charge of powder then shot them at distance and learned our drops... those were the days. No chronograph or fighting to get accuracy at the utmost speed. We “thought” we already had it. Plus, we all still killed a pile of elk and deer every year.

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You got that right! ha I have had 'several" really killer loads, in several rifles, that my "new" chronographed just "ruint" for me! ha The 7mm Rem Mag/160PT/IMR 4350 ( "only" 2950 instead of the 3100 I thought I was getting) and the .280 Ackley/Nosler 150BT/R22 ( again, "2950" from its 22" barrel. I got "2900" when it was a regular .280!!!! AARRGH! :)


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