Woo Hoo! LEOSA Qual for 2026 is complete

[FOTIS]

Great shooting Guy! I too love to carry the .45 in a 1911. Of all my pistol shooting comps, I tend to do the best with these.

Agreed. Nothing fits my hand like a 1911.

 

[6mm Remington]

It was held at the large Oklahoma City Gun Club, and I believe all the RSO's were active & retired OKC police officers.

Everyone left with a hard wallet-sized card saying that they'd qualified. Oklahoma doesn't care what handgun is used, and it's not noted on the card. Just qualification and a date.

Guy

On the qualification I am going to in a week roughly, they record the firearm, caliber, and serial number of the one that you qualify with. The fall qualification here locally does not do that. I think that information shouldn't be kept and that it is the fact that you qualified is what is important. I carry a couple of different pistols concealed and it is either my 40 S&W or my 380 ACP. It does bother me a bit as I feel that if they record this information, it seems like that kind of leans towards you only being qualified with that weapon and that weapon only. Is it just me?

We get a wallet sized card as well from both locations, it just takes a week or so for those to arrive.

 

[JMRhino]

On the qualification I am going to in a week roughly, they record the firearm, caliber, and serial number of the one that you qualify with. The fall qualification here locally does not do that. I think that information shouldn't be kept and that it is the fact that you qualified is what is important. I carry a couple of different pistols concealed and it is either my 40 S&W or my 380 ACP. It does bother me a bit as I feel that if they record this information, it seems like that kind of leans towards you only being qualified with that weapon and that weapon only. Is it just me?

We get a wallet sized card as well from both locations, it just takes a week or so for those to arrive.

In VA they record make, model and serial number but don't care which one or how many. Depending on my mood, I alternate amongst various Glocks that all have the identical mode of operations. I don't qualify with or carry weapons with drastically different triggers or cycle of operations. I think they got you by the short hairs if it's not a good shoot regardless of the weapon used. I also have a long, recorded formal training history with the same platform that I'm sure could be obtained if needed. I personally don't sweat it too much but maybe I should.

I think the entire LEOSA concept, while I am grateful for, seems to be etched in Jello depending on what jurisdiction you live in. I still won't carry in DC or NYC; therefore, I don't go there....

 

[Bruce Mc]

Here's the jello!

during the most recent 12-month period, has met, at the expense of the individual, the standards for qualification in firearms training for active law enforcement officers, as determined by the former agency of the individual, the State in which the individual resides or, if the State has not established such standards, either a law enforcement agency within the State in which the individual resides or the standards used by a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within that State;

 

[Charlie-NY]

LEOSA isn't as straight forward as it should be. Magazine limits should be waived for those who are qualified under LEOSA but my understanding is that they are not. My service HK magazines hold 13 rounds of 40 S&W. Carrying LEO (hi-cap) magazines can run you afoul of state laws depending on where you carry. Hollow point ammunition is standard issue for most agencies but according to NJ State Police, if you are caught in NJ with HP ammo, you will be prosecuted, regardless of your LEOSA status. The section in LEOSA that deals with ammo should be clearer.

Requalification training should be standardized throughout the country, but it seems to vary widely. Costs also vary from place to place. My recent requalification cost $75.

In the area I live, a pistol permit is required for retired LEOs. In order to obtain and maintain that permit, you must carry a current LEOSA card.

 

[Bruce Mc]

I thought there was a federal court case whose ruling prevents new jersey from arresting Qualified Leosa for type of concealed handgun or hollow point ammunition.

 

[Guy Miner]

Great shooting Guy! I too love to carry the .45 in a 1911. Of all my pistol shooting comps, I tend to do the best with these.

Thanks. It's a simple course of fire, many could do better than I did. Perhaps next time I'll do better!

I'm celebrating 45 years with the 45 1911 now. We've had a good relationship. It was a little rocky the first time through, then I got determined to master the 1911... Have owned several different ones, and still have a few. Carried it in the Marines. Carried it through my entire law enforcement career. Carried it when I was running my own little shooting school. Often it would be the only 1911 present at those schools.

I'm getting to the point where if it wasn't un-American to not own a 44 mag revolver, my biggest handgun would be a 45 1911... Love 'em. Sweet trigger pull. Very safe with two safeties to disengage - and yet amazingly fast & accurate for that all-important first shot on target.

There's a lot of competition out there, but I like what I know, and I know the 1911 pretty well.

When each of us on the church security team were presented with an array of cardboard IPSC targets to engage, I had one of the few 1911's. I went through the course quickly and the instructor asked "Guy, did you just do all head-shots?" Umm yes I did, is that okay?

It's not the easiest self-defense pistol to live with. It's old, heavy, holds only 7 or 8 rounds in the magazine. Ten if you want a mag hanging out below the frame. But John Moses Browning got it right when he designed the 1911 and it's only improved over the years.



Regards, Guy