I'm looking for a 25-06 load that could be used for deer to elk and black bear. I have been shooting imr 4831 with remington brass and a cci mag primer with hundred grain solid bases at almost 3400. Is it possible to get 3400 with this particular bullet in the 25-06? I have heard that they are harder than say the ballistic tip? What powder are you running and how much of it?
100 grain e tip in 25-06
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Yes it is possible with a a 26" barrel, but it depends on the gun and the bullet. With the e-tip I would try RL 25 (start at 52) and Retumbo nothing slower, not even RL22.
Good luck
Good luck
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They are kinda sticky. Personally I would settle for 3300 fps
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79inpa
The E-Tips have a long bearing surface so pressures can spike quickly. Stick with the mid load as your MAX. I would look at Retumbo.
JD338
The E-Tips have a long bearing surface so pressures can spike quickly. Stick with the mid load as your MAX. I would look at Retumbo.
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Have you read this post where different hunters used a .257 Wby mag on elk at rather long ranges?
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13828
Quite a bit of good info there - and the bullet used was a 115 gr Nosler Partition. I haven't tried the 100 gr E-Tip yet, should be a good bullet, but I sure wouldn't write off the Partition, the Ballistic Tip, or the AccuBond. Nosler makes some dandy bullets in .257" dia. The Wby is faster than the .25-06, but both send a bullet downrange with good velocity.
I'm comfortable sending a 100 gr bullet downrange at around 3300 - 3350 fps from my .25-06 rifle, which has a 24" barrel. Works great. My longest mule deer kill with this rifle was a one-hit kill at an honest 400 yards.
Regards, Guy
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13828
Quite a bit of good info there - and the bullet used was a 115 gr Nosler Partition. I haven't tried the 100 gr E-Tip yet, should be a good bullet, but I sure wouldn't write off the Partition, the Ballistic Tip, or the AccuBond. Nosler makes some dandy bullets in .257" dia. The Wby is faster than the .25-06, but both send a bullet downrange with good velocity.
I'm comfortable sending a 100 gr bullet downrange at around 3300 - 3350 fps from my .25-06 rifle, which has a 24" barrel. Works great. My longest mule deer kill with this rifle was a one-hit kill at an honest 400 yards.
Regards, Guy
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I wouldn't think the 115gr PT would have any issues getting through a near side shoulder at all. They are PT's!!! Probably won't get an exit, but if I had to hunt elk with a 25-06, I wouldn't feel too horribly undergunned with 115 or 120gr PT's at 3100 or better. Not my preferred medicine, but I can't think of any elk not dieing from a solid shoulder/lung hit. The 270 Win has been doing it forever, the 25-06 is just a shade behind it with bullet weight! Scotty
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79inpa":1rlz5cys said:
I have seen and heard of such elk being taken down with 100 grain PT from a 25-06 at 300 plus yards.
Ask 25-06 Remington a poster on here.
I know from talking to Remingtonman that he has taken several (around seven I think) elk with the 25-06 and at least one black bear with it as well. I think he was using VLDs and/or BTs.
I would think that a guy would be better off with the 100 ET or the 115 PT. If I was hunting elk and bears I think I might shy away from the 110 AB, and opt for a bit tougher bullet.
I would think that a guy would be better off with the 100 ET or the 115 PT. If I was hunting elk and bears I think I might shy away from the 110 AB, and opt for a bit tougher bullet.
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I hope Shane at High Top Outfitters doesn't mind me quoting him here - some good insights into the .257 Weatherby and Nosler bullets on elk:
"Bullet performance, OK here we go. Let me say first that I love my 257 Weatherby. It has low recoil, shoots flat and packs just enough punch to get the job done on these big bulls. When we started this Nowers project I knew that shooting would be of utmost importance since both Danny and Angela are very limited physically. I have a 6X-24X scope on my rifle. "My Weatherby Mark 5 shoots well with handloads. I handloaded up a 67.0 grain load of IMR 7828 with the 115 grain Partitions putting the bullets at about 3400 at 5200 feet elevation. I hit the range and with a 310 yard zero had the bullets at -6 at 400 and -17 at 500. The load shot a group right at 1 inch.
So I picked up Danny and Angela. Out to the range we went and after some practice felt good about their skills. Team HTO geared up for the hunt.
We located a herd with 4 good bulls in it, 9 total. The herd was anywhere between 50-80 strong so the challenge became getting at these bulls without the cows in the way. The October Bulls were rutting late so there was a lot of bugling. On day 3 of the hunt Danny got his chance. His bull had moved up on a cedar face with his cows. At 508 yards Danny hit the bull 3 times with the third just below the spine busting the bull down and it rolled down the hill.
In looking at bullet performance IMO it was perfect. The bullets created a lot of trauma and penetrated nicely.
Now I will admit that I am biased because I took my 2007 Utah bull with 120 Partitions at 563 yards. I will attach a picture. The partitions were absolutely flawless on my bull.
Angelas bull was hit 3 times on Day 6. Once at 125, once at 230 and then finally at 335. The penetration on Angelas first shot was amazing.
Anyone who has hunted these big animals knows how tough they can be. In 2007 I had a client hit a 335 bull 4 times at 325 yards with a 7mm Remington Magnum and 162 grain Sierra Gamekings. All through the chest.
I will always shoot Partitions or Accubonds after that experience. For a big bull, If the hunter is shooting a 270 or bigger with 140 grain Accubonds or larger I don't think you can go wrong with the Accubonds. With my 257 I choose the Fail Proof Partitions in case we hit those big bones.
With all the hunting it still comes down to practice and shot placement. I cant say enough good things about Nosler Bullets. I will continue to use them. The results are in the pictures on our web site. We are gearing up to get the late bull elk hunts finished up. We have several Pahvant Late clients as well as other units so if all goes well some more fantastic bulls will be hitting the ground. I will let you know. Shane"
"Bullet performance, OK here we go. Let me say first that I love my 257 Weatherby. It has low recoil, shoots flat and packs just enough punch to get the job done on these big bulls. When we started this Nowers project I knew that shooting would be of utmost importance since both Danny and Angela are very limited physically. I have a 6X-24X scope on my rifle. "My Weatherby Mark 5 shoots well with handloads. I handloaded up a 67.0 grain load of IMR 7828 with the 115 grain Partitions putting the bullets at about 3400 at 5200 feet elevation. I hit the range and with a 310 yard zero had the bullets at -6 at 400 and -17 at 500. The load shot a group right at 1 inch.
So I picked up Danny and Angela. Out to the range we went and after some practice felt good about their skills. Team HTO geared up for the hunt.
We located a herd with 4 good bulls in it, 9 total. The herd was anywhere between 50-80 strong so the challenge became getting at these bulls without the cows in the way. The October Bulls were rutting late so there was a lot of bugling. On day 3 of the hunt Danny got his chance. His bull had moved up on a cedar face with his cows. At 508 yards Danny hit the bull 3 times with the third just below the spine busting the bull down and it rolled down the hill.
In looking at bullet performance IMO it was perfect. The bullets created a lot of trauma and penetrated nicely.
Now I will admit that I am biased because I took my 2007 Utah bull with 120 Partitions at 563 yards. I will attach a picture. The partitions were absolutely flawless on my bull.
Angelas bull was hit 3 times on Day 6. Once at 125, once at 230 and then finally at 335. The penetration on Angelas first shot was amazing.
Anyone who has hunted these big animals knows how tough they can be. In 2007 I had a client hit a 335 bull 4 times at 325 yards with a 7mm Remington Magnum and 162 grain Sierra Gamekings. All through the chest.
I will always shoot Partitions or Accubonds after that experience. For a big bull, If the hunter is shooting a 270 or bigger with 140 grain Accubonds or larger I don't think you can go wrong with the Accubonds. With my 257 I choose the Fail Proof Partitions in case we hit those big bones.
With all the hunting it still comes down to practice and shot placement. I cant say enough good things about Nosler Bullets. I will continue to use them. The results are in the pictures on our web site. We are gearing up to get the late bull elk hunts finished up. We have several Pahvant Late clients as well as other units so if all goes well some more fantastic bulls will be hitting the ground. I will let you know. Shane"
