I've never shot into jugs before so I hope what I did has value to some of you. I set them at one hundred yards. Bullet penetrated four jugs and was inside the fourth, left a divet where it tried to pound through but couldn't. 78 grains retained weight. The first two jugs were obliterated, remaining two just had plain old holes. I did clock the load at 2811 fps from my little 7 and 46.6 grains of rl17. Chronograph is ten feet from muzzle. It can be shot faster for sure but this is what I had on hand and what was most accurate load for me and the rem 700.