2 flyers with 41 mag

[remingtonman_25_06]

So heres the deal. With my ruger new model blackhawk .41 mag, with both factory ammo and my handloads, I am seeing a positive pattern. I am getting 4 shots into a nice group, but 2 shots are always flinging them way out of the group high and left. I would say my 6 shot groups offhand at 25 yards are about 6-7" with the 2 bad flyers, the 4 good shots usually go into 2-2.5" or so.

I am by no means an expert pistol shot, but I do have somewhat of an ability to shoot them, I am pretty good with open sites. I dont think this problem would keep reoccuring with both factory and handloaded ammo, and its always 2 flyers, not 1 or 3.

Maybe I"m crazy or something but I thought I remember reading or hearing somewhere sometime that it has something to do with your cylinders. There was a way guys were marking there cylinders and keeping track of the targets to show which cylinder was making the bad shots. Then they would use the bad cylinders as the latter shots. This is at least what I would like to do if I cant get it fixed. I want to know what is behind this and how/why its happening and if its worth fixing? I am going to be putting a scope on it eventually and be shooting out to 100-150 yards and hoping to get nice 5-6 shot groups, not 3-4 shot groups. I know this is farther down the road, but if I see this pattern at 25 yards, it wont be any different, and surely not better at 100 or 150.

Thanks for any and all help.

 

[HeathSexton]

Sounds like you have 2 cylinder throats that are out of spec, probably tighter. I checked my .44 by using soft cast lead bullets. I took 6 bullets and pushed one through each cylinder and mic'd it, that would tell you the diameter of your throats. I used and old wooden turkey striker to push them through. If that is your problem you can have them honed out to the same size, I think there is a guy called the cylinder smith.


Good luck

 

[FOTIS]

I agree. Number the cylinders and see if they are the same ones that throw them out.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

If it new, Ruger will probably fix it for free.
I sent in my Vaquero, the barrel was screwed on askew, and they fixed it. No charge. It just took about 2 months with the large production back up.

 

[.405]

Yep, mark with tape and number the cylinder and see, that will tell you for sure.
Man I hope my Redhawk is going to shoot. I guess I can't expect to be able to shoot it like I did twenty five years ago.Wish I had a Ransom Rest.
I just finished loading some rounds with 21.3 grain of 296 and the Nosler,and Sierra 210 bullet. That always shot good for me back in the day.

 

[JD338]

Remmy,

I agree with the others to number the cylinders.
My only other thought would be proper grip and trigger control, ie: finger position on the trigger and trigger squeeze.

Are you shooting one or two handed? Are the fliers maybe the first two shots or the last two shots? Just wondering if grip technique could have something to do with it. I was having a similar issue with my 1911 until I figured out proper grip, now my groups are small and in the bulls eye.

JD338

 

[.405]

Remmy,

I agree with the others to number the cylinders.
My only other thought would be proper grip and trigger control, ie: finger position on the trigger and trigger squeeze.

Are you shooting one or two handed? Are the fliers maybe the first two shots or the last two shots? Just wondering if grip technique could have something to do with it. I was having a similar issue with my 1911 until I figured out proper grip, now my groups are small and in the bulls eye.

JD338

True.I have found that my groups have improved when I changed to the Hogue Mono grip with finger grooves. It helps me position my hand the same way on the grip each time. I am not a fan of the way some of the grips like Pachmayer look on the gun,but the finger grooves do help.