250 savage

[rocky250savage]

I have a really nice .250 savage built in 1950. This gun was purchased new by my father and has been fired about 100 times. Unfortunately, it has a 1 in 14 twist and a 1/8" corrosion spot about 3/4" from the end of the barrel (inside).
I live in a no lead area and moving from the left coast is not currenlty an option.

I am not having much luck with stabilizing no lead bullets in this gun.

Since my 10 yr old has taken an interest in shooting, I would like to get a new 1 in 10" twist barrel and a replacement stock to shorten for him.

Any suggestions on where to get a replacement barrel that will match the gun?

any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[gerry]

Pac Nor can do it for $35 extra.

http://www.pac-nor.com/contours/

I'm quite happy with the quality of the barrel I got for my 264 WM, Pac Nor has become my first choice for a custom barrel.

 

[SJB358]

I would look at PacNor for a replacement barrel. They should be able to get you a barrel that matches your old barrel for profile and also get you back in the game with the longer mono metal bullets. Scotty

 

[DrMike]

Rocky250savage,

Welcome to the forum. You've had the suggestion that makes the most sense, especially in light of your location. Pac-Nor will fix you up with a quality barrel in no time. Best of luck. If you get a chance, post a picture of your rifle. It has to be pretty good looking for us gun cranks.

 

[rocky250savage]

Thanks for all the suggestions - and your service to our country - semper fi.
Looks like Pac Nor will do it and I might just have it ready by Christmas.

 

[BK]

Come on, man, you can't tease us like that! What kind of gun is it? Scope? We need pics and details, man!

 

[rocky250savage]

Just your typical Savage 99 with a leupold VX II 3-9 compact scope that I put on it to replace an old K4.
I killed my first deer with it and with any luck so will my 10 year old. My father gave it to me when he upgraded to a custom bolt action .250 some years back and is still hunting in is late 80's. View attachment savage1.jpg

 

[nodak7mm]

Wondering why CloverLeaf hasnt chimed it here? Almost cause for concern... :shock:

Rod

 

[DrMike]

Sweet looking Model 99. What a fine deer rifle.

 

[rocky250savage]

Considering recoil and ballistics I think its still the best deer rifle for a young shooter. He enjoys shooting it at the range. I don't have to worry much about him developing a flinch. Unfortunately, The Barnes TSX bullets I have tried tend to keyhole.

 

[SJB358]

Just your typical Savage 99 with a leupold VX II 3-9 compact scope that I put on it to replace an old K4.
I killed my first deer with it and with any luck so will my 10 year old. My father gave it to me when he upgraded to a custom bolt action .250 some years back and is still hunting in is late 80's.

Rocky, very nice rifle! Man, what a great family rifle! Scotty

 

[cloverleaf]

Nodak.... too D@#g busy! Got so excited when I saw "250 Savage" I couldnt even read all the posts..... Yes, I know I need a life.....
Any way, that 1in 14 twist willl complicte things a bit. Hard to get 100 gr bullets to stabilize. Have you tried any of the 90 grin options? It was built to shoot the 87 Grain bullet have you tried the BT in that weight. Met a guy with the identical rifle said that all he could get to shoot well was the 75 grain v-max. One of my personal favorites. (40 Gr. 4350) I have played around with the 85 gr CT (41 Gr. of 4350)
If you dicide to go with a new barrel I cant speak for brand so go with the advice here. You may want to consider a 1 to 10 twist, That will stabilize the heavier bullets and still make the 75's a possibility too.
The other option would be to call the Savage custom shop. I am told that Savage can build you an entire model 99 if you have the time and money.
That is a nice looking Model 99 Savage. They are a classic and one of the finest all around rifles IMHO. Nice! Good luck with the loading and let me know what you find....Oh, I load almost everything with 4350, but A guy I knew with lots of experience put me on to IMR 4064.
Hmmm....Somthing else to explore I dont know but if you go with a new barrel you could get it chambered in 257 Ackley. I think that would giove you the option of 110 grainers with better velocity.
AS you can guess, I am kinda the self appointed champoin of the round. Great cartrige, very efficient, even if a little handicapped by bullet weight and case capacity. A 243 will do what it does easier for the most part, but not better inside 300 yds. But waht fun is that? CL

PS Oh Crap! Im sorry I didnt see, that you have to deal with the no lead nonsense.... I have half a Box of the old 90 grain "X" bullet loaded over 40 Grains of 4350. They shot as well as anything else. Of course those old X bullets had a reputation for not expanding and they did foul my barrel quick. That 1:10 twist may be the way to go... does Berger make an all metal? Ask a good smith or the folks at pac nor if they can give you a little longer free bore. you might find it useful. but then again having it "Ackleyed" would be better and probably easier to load for.

 

[JD338]

rocky250savage

Welcome to the forum, glad you are here.
Beautiful classic rifle!
I agree with the others that PacNor would be a great option for you. I am sure PacNor will set you up with the correct twist for the no lead bullets.
Keep us posted with the project.

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

rocky250savage :

What bullets have you used so far and have not worked out for you?

 

[onesonek]

Don't know how I missed this one.
Great looking 99 there Rocky! Always wanted one!!
Here's 2 options I would look seriously at.
Both involving Pac-Nor, as Gerry suggested.
I looked there for 2 reasons,,,,1 thier quality is great, 2 they have an option not found readily elsewhere.
Ok with the 100 gr. monometal bullets, 1-10" twist is ok, but barely. So,,,,,
Option 1, have Pac-Nor put a 1-10 polygonal rifled on it. I could go into detail on the whys for the polygonal, but for now I will just say, they generate less pressure, all else being equal compared to standard rifling. This may allow for a bit more velocity in the end, and may be beneficial with running a twist rate that is close to borderline for the bullet design.
Option 2, Pac-Nor's 5 groove standard rifling in a 1-9" twist. This will give a little more margin, for the stability factor. I can't say what of those would prove to best for mono's. But I do have a few of their Poly's, and they shoot great. I also shoot some of their 3 groove barrel's and they shoot great also. The only thing that concerns me abit with the mono's is their longer length, and the limited capacity of the .250. If you can get 2800 fps with the 100 gr E-Tip, you will be fine with the 10" Poly I believe.
As after all that said, I shoot a 110 AB which is the same length as the 100 ET, and it shoots under 1/2 moa, out Pac-Nor's 3 groove 1-10" at 2800 fps in my 17" pistol barrel. But I'm seated farther out than book in my TC Encore with a full case. So I would likely go with the Poly myself.
If you decide to give them consideration,,,,give them a call and see what their thoughts are.