TRIC
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Finally got it put together. Lookin to load the 100 PT and/or 115 TSX. Any pet loads that have worked? Thanks.
257 BEE
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Look at rl22 and rl25!
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TRIC
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FOTIS, I have a good supply of both. Leanin towards RL25. Any particular "cautions" to be concerned with when loading for the BEE? My first go round with them.
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Nope Just start low and go slow.
Here is a General idea.
http://reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=35
Here is a General idea.
http://reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=35
bbearhntr
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nitis":2vax35n6 said:
I will second that motion. I had zero luck with any loads until I seated my bullets to near 3.160. Then Presto sub moa. My sweet spot was near MAX with RL22.
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Cartridge : .257 Weath. Mag
Bullet : .257, 100, Nosler PART SP 16317
Useable Case Capaci: 78.562 grain H2O = 5.101 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.170 inch = 80.52 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 111 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
175 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218 108.3 83.6 5.41 3723 97.7 64000 16757 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 104.4 79.7 5.17 3698 97.3 64000 16436 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 108.3 78.8 5.11 3669 100.0 64000 14535 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 110.6 82.7 5.36 3667 98.7 64000 15822 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 110.6 86.6 5.61 3660 97.2 64000 16409 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 96.1 71.1 4.61 3644 99.3 64000 15007 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 95.1 70.7 4.58 3637 99.6 64000 14571 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 100.5 70.7 4.58 3637 99.6 64000 14571 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 103.8 75.1 4.87 3635 99.8 64000 14897 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 98.3 76.2 4.94 3634 99.8 64000 14648 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 94.2 71.2 4.61 3634 100.0 64000 14437 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 98.7 76.3 4.94 3633 99.8 64000 14635 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 98.5 76.1 4.93 3632 99.8 64000 14606 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 96.3 74.1 4.80 3630 98.5 64000 15105 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 101.6 73.2 4.74 3626 100.0 64000 13859 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 96.2 70.5 4.57 3625 99.5 64000 14450 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 100.0 75.1 4.87 3620 99.8 64000 14206 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 105.1 75.3 4.88 3617 99.8 64000 14165 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 96.4 70.6 4.58 3613 99.9 64000 14348 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 96.4 70.6 4.58 3613 99.9 64000 14348 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 96.4 70.6 4.58 3613 99.9 64000 14348 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 99.0 70.9 4.60 3611 99.9 64000 14365 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 99.9 73.7 4.78 3588 98.4 64000 14304 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 97.9 70.3 4.56 3588 99.3 64000 14159 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 93.5 67.3 4.36 3585 99.9 64000 13739 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 93.9 68.0 4.41 3579 99.9 64000 13779 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 107.1 82.6 5.35 3579 92.1 64000 14902 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 94.6 68.5 4.44 3570 99.9 64000 13678 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 92.3 66.8 4.33 3560 99.8 64000 13499 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 92.3 66.8 4.33 3560 99.8 64000 13499 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 99.1 69.7 4.52 3557 99.1 64000 13709 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 95.2 69.7 4.52 3557 99.1 64000 13709 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 93.3 66.6 4.32 3536 99.5 64000 13269 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 92.3 64.0 4.15 3531 100.0 64000 12707 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 94.0 68.8 4.46 3531 100.0 64000 13115 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 107.9 77.3 5.01 3530 95.9 64000 14117 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 90.0 66.2 4.29 3528 100.0 64000 12930 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 90.6 65.2 4.23 3524 100.0 64000 12336 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 92.8 70.8 4.59 3522 99.9 64000 13087 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 92.1 65.2 4.23 3519 100.0 64000 12767 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 90.4 65.1 4.22 3518 100.0 64000 12738 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 93.6 64.9 4.21 3515 100.0 64000 12465 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 99.0 70.9 4.60 3512 100.0 64000 12824 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 99.5 69.1 4.48 3511 99.5 64000 12996 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869 111.0 85.6 5.55 3507 91.4 61038 14680 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 102.2 70.0 4.54 3502 100.0 64000 12658 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG 111.0 81.6 5.29 3501 87.1 60253 14840 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100 104.7 81.6 5.29 3496 92.8 64000 13805 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 92.2 71.1 4.61 3491 99.1 64000 12970 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 94.8 64.2 4.16 3485 100.0 64000 11809 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13 111.0 82.1 5.32 3426 94.8 56160 14246 1.211
Vihtavuori N150 90.1 61.6 3.99 3422 100.0 64000 11206 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29 111.0 86.5 5.61 3409 92.2 54726 14532 1.226
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 111.0 82.1 5.32 3350 92.4 52496 14024 1.248
Accurate 8700 111.0 82.3 5.33 3338 93.4 50708 14002 1.253
NC A3502 ,test only 111.0 78.6 5.10 3086 69.5 44836 12031 1.313
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 111.0 78.6 5.10 3055 73.2 42661 12199 1.351
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 98.8 35.7 2.31 2661 100.0 64000 5550 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
IMR TrailBoss 111.0 27.1 1.76 2315 100.0 42416 4421 1.359
ADI AS 25 BP 111.0 27.1 1.76 2315 100.0 42416 4421 1.359
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 111.0 78.6 5.10 2181 34.3 22748 5929 1.783
Bullet : .257, 100, Nosler PART SP 16317
Useable Case Capaci: 78.562 grain H2O = 5.101 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.170 inch = 80.52 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 111 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
175 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218 108.3 83.6 5.41 3723 97.7 64000 16757 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 104.4 79.7 5.17 3698 97.3 64000 16436 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 108.3 78.8 5.11 3669 100.0 64000 14535 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 110.6 82.7 5.36 3667 98.7 64000 15822 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 110.6 86.6 5.61 3660 97.2 64000 16409 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 96.1 71.1 4.61 3644 99.3 64000 15007 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 95.1 70.7 4.58 3637 99.6 64000 14571 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 100.5 70.7 4.58 3637 99.6 64000 14571 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 103.8 75.1 4.87 3635 99.8 64000 14897 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 98.3 76.2 4.94 3634 99.8 64000 14648 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 94.2 71.2 4.61 3634 100.0 64000 14437 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 98.7 76.3 4.94 3633 99.8 64000 14635 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 98.5 76.1 4.93 3632 99.8 64000 14606 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 96.3 74.1 4.80 3630 98.5 64000 15105 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 101.6 73.2 4.74 3626 100.0 64000 13859 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 96.2 70.5 4.57 3625 99.5 64000 14450 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 100.0 75.1 4.87 3620 99.8 64000 14206 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 105.1 75.3 4.88 3617 99.8 64000 14165 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 96.4 70.6 4.58 3613 99.9 64000 14348 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 96.4 70.6 4.58 3613 99.9 64000 14348 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 96.4 70.6 4.58 3613 99.9 64000 14348 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 99.0 70.9 4.60 3611 99.9 64000 14365 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 99.9 73.7 4.78 3588 98.4 64000 14304 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 97.9 70.3 4.56 3588 99.3 64000 14159 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 93.5 67.3 4.36 3585 99.9 64000 13739 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 93.9 68.0 4.41 3579 99.9 64000 13779 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 107.1 82.6 5.35 3579 92.1 64000 14902 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 94.6 68.5 4.44 3570 99.9 64000 13678 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 92.3 66.8 4.33 3560 99.8 64000 13499 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 92.3 66.8 4.33 3560 99.8 64000 13499 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 99.1 69.7 4.52 3557 99.1 64000 13709 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 95.2 69.7 4.52 3557 99.1 64000 13709 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 93.3 66.6 4.32 3536 99.5 64000 13269 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 92.3 64.0 4.15 3531 100.0 64000 12707 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 94.0 68.8 4.46 3531 100.0 64000 13115 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 107.9 77.3 5.01 3530 95.9 64000 14117 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 90.0 66.2 4.29 3528 100.0 64000 12930 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 90.6 65.2 4.23 3524 100.0 64000 12336 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 92.8 70.8 4.59 3522 99.9 64000 13087 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 92.1 65.2 4.23 3519 100.0 64000 12767 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 90.4 65.1 4.22 3518 100.0 64000 12738 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 93.6 64.9 4.21 3515 100.0 64000 12465 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 99.0 70.9 4.60 3512 100.0 64000 12824 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 99.5 69.1 4.48 3511 99.5 64000 12996 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869 111.0 85.6 5.55 3507 91.4 61038 14680 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 102.2 70.0 4.54 3502 100.0 64000 12658 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG 111.0 81.6 5.29 3501 87.1 60253 14840 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100 104.7 81.6 5.29 3496 92.8 64000 13805 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 92.2 71.1 4.61 3491 99.1 64000 12970 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 94.8 64.2 4.16 3485 100.0 64000 11809 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13 111.0 82.1 5.32 3426 94.8 56160 14246 1.211
Vihtavuori N150 90.1 61.6 3.99 3422 100.0 64000 11206 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29 111.0 86.5 5.61 3409 92.2 54726 14532 1.226
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 111.0 82.1 5.32 3350 92.4 52496 14024 1.248
Accurate 8700 111.0 82.3 5.33 3338 93.4 50708 14002 1.253
NC A3502 ,test only 111.0 78.6 5.10 3086 69.5 44836 12031 1.313
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 111.0 78.6 5.10 3055 73.2 42661 12199 1.351
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 98.8 35.7 2.31 2661 100.0 64000 5550 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
IMR TrailBoss 111.0 27.1 1.76 2315 100.0 42416 4421 1.359
ADI AS 25 BP 111.0 27.1 1.76 2315 100.0 42416 4421 1.359
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 111.0 78.6 5.10 2181 34.3 22748 5929 1.783
ScreaminEagle
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Let us know how it works out. I'm a bit jealous. I've always wanted a 257 bee.
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TRIC
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FOTIS, thanks. The RL 22/25 loads are what I was looking at. Should work out well. SE, will post range reports and pics soon.
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Keep us posted. :wink:
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TRIC
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SE, here are pics of the "almost-finished" product... It will be finished when range time has been done; hopefully this weekend...
DrMike
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That is coming along nicely. Very handsome rifle.
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I do like the theme a lot!
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TRIC":3cthgq4v said:
'22 has no peer in the 257Wby.
I've only had (5) 257Wby's(SAAMI throated),all were 700 based wearing Custom spouts and McMillan handles. 3.16" is the LAST route I'd go,with any of the projectiles thus far cited. In fact,3.160" is about where I'm at with 75V-Max in the chambering,along with the 75XFB.
Recoil is minimal and even with .003" constriction ala bushing dies,setback in the mag box via just a bullet diameter of shank in the mouth,will preclude any/all feed/function woes.
Hint.
