Finally got a chance to try the 150 LRAB with some IMR-4831. I also tested a case full H-4831 sc with mediocre 2 inch groups. Then I shot a three shot group with 55 grains of IMR-4831. Thru the scope I thought I missed the whole target with shots two and three. After shooting a few 140 AB,s and 130 PT,s I finally went down range to see what was happening. Those 150 LRAB,s did not miss. they are in same place. Happy.Happy Happy