270 weatherby mag vs. 7mm weatherby mag
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While I think the 270 Wby Magnum is a very much overlooked cartridge, I feel the 7mm Wby Mag is just a little more versital.
The ability of the 7 mag to shoot heavier bullets gives it the edge in my opinion. I I were looking for a flat shooting rifle for just deer, antelope, sheep, etc. I would sure consider the 270 version. However, when you throw elk in the equation I would prefer the 7 mm Wby Mag loaded with 160 grain Partitions.
I have never shot an elk with my 7mm Wby Mag, as I prefer to use my 300 Wby Mag or my .338 Win Mag. BUT, I sure would not hesistate to shoot an elk using my 7mm loaded with 160 Partitions. I am sure it would work just fine.
The ability of the 7 mag to shoot heavier bullets gives it the edge in my opinion. I I were looking for a flat shooting rifle for just deer, antelope, sheep, etc. I would sure consider the 270 version. However, when you throw elk in the equation I would prefer the 7 mm Wby Mag loaded with 160 grain Partitions.
I have never shot an elk with my 7mm Wby Mag, as I prefer to use my 300 Wby Mag or my .338 Win Mag. BUT, I sure would not hesistate to shoot an elk using my 7mm loaded with 160 Partitions. I am sure it would work just fine.
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I just bought a MK V Ultralight in 270 "BEE". It will be a light rifle for the nasty hard to get to places. It will also do for elk in a pinch, but I have rifles better suited for elk. All this said I would go for the 7mm if i would not have bought this rifle to fill this niche.
I like the 270bee. I've got two, and have hunted mule deer, and antelope with them. Would I use it for Elk? Sure, why not? The 140gr AccuBond is a fantastic bullet. I could shoot the 150gr Partition, but it's not as accurate in my rifles.
Does a 160gr .284 bullet really have that much more energy? Is there any reason to NOT own a 7mm bee?
I really think you've got a winner with EITHER!
--Mark
Does a 160gr .284 bullet really have that much more energy? Is there any reason to NOT own a 7mm bee?
I really think you've got a winner with EITHER!
--Mark
I have a 270bee that I really like , it shoots 140gr TSX into less than one-half an inch at 100yds, MV of 3300fps, it has become my mule deer rifle, for sure.
That being said, if elk was in the picture, I think I would be a little more comfortable with the 7mm variety, especially with the 175 grain bullet being an option. Looking in most of the reloading manuals, an honest 3000fps is possible in the 7mm bee with the 175 grain pill.
Also, there is a wider variety of bullets available for the 7mm.
I think in a light rifle(i.e., the ultralight) the 7mmroy would be hard to beat for a backcountry elk rifle. Good luck! :wink:
That being said, if elk was in the picture, I think I would be a little more comfortable with the 7mm variety, especially with the 175 grain bullet being an option. Looking in most of the reloading manuals, an honest 3000fps is possible in the 7mm bee with the 175 grain pill.
Also, there is a wider variety of bullets available for the 7mm.
I think in a light rifle(i.e., the ultralight) the 7mmroy would be hard to beat for a backcountry elk rifle. Good luck! :wink:
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Madman:
If I can get the 130 or the 140 Accubonds near 3500 fps with under .75 MOA I will be elated.
If I can get the 130 or the 140 Accubonds near 3500 fps with under .75 MOA I will be elated.
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I am hoping big time!
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There's really not a nickel's worth of difference between the two. The razor slim edge goes to the 7mm IMO, because of the slight advantage in bullet selection, as well as BC. Very slight. If you need a heavy bullet in the .277, you have choices above 150gr, but there is no real need with the 'bee for Elk, as the 150gr at roughly 3200fps will certainly kill elk all day long. Use a premium bullet, such as a Partition or barnes or a-frame, and knock 'em down hard. If you need mass, you can get a 160gr Partition, as well as a 180gr barnes original (if you can find them). I believe there are a couple of other options, but don't quote me on anything past what I have listed here.
Like I said, the selection of bullets for the 7mm is not much better than the 277 class, as 277 is one of the most popular calibers out there, especially with the advent of the 270WSM, which has revitalized the caliber a tad. Overall, you can do anything except the great bears with either gun. I own a 270'bee, only because that's the one I found on a deal and bought a while back. I was really sort of looking for a 257'bee, because I wanted a deer/pronghorn rifle, and like the quarter-bore. But a deal is a deal, no matter the chamber, and the 270'bee offers a little flexibility for deer/pronghorn, as well as the ability to do elk/moose/caribou without a hitch. Plenty of those have been killed by a 270Win, so the 'bee will work well, too.
Summary? Either way, you win. Let us know how it turns out.
Like I said, the selection of bullets for the 7mm is not much better than the 277 class, as 277 is one of the most popular calibers out there, especially with the advent of the 270WSM, which has revitalized the caliber a tad. Overall, you can do anything except the great bears with either gun. I own a 270'bee, only because that's the one I found on a deal and bought a while back. I was really sort of looking for a 257'bee, because I wanted a deer/pronghorn rifle, and like the quarter-bore. But a deal is a deal, no matter the chamber, and the 270'bee offers a little flexibility for deer/pronghorn, as well as the ability to do elk/moose/caribou without a hitch. Plenty of those have been killed by a 270Win, so the 'bee will work well, too.
Summary? Either way, you win. Let us know how it turns out.
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I have used the 270 weatherby for a lot of years. The 130 grain gives complete penetration on elk. I am now loading 140 grainers and they are chronographing at 3400 fps. I have no problem putting down whatever I point it at. It shoots extremely flat, and hits with more than enough authority. The 7 mm does have the advantage of being able to shoot a heavier bullet, but there has never been a critter that knew the difference between getting hit with a 130 grain or 150 grain out of a 270 weatherby or a 175 grain out of the 7 mm. The choice is yours, but personally, I prefer the 270 Weatherby. It is very versatile in the reloading department, and performs best loaded hot. The recoil is very user friendly, and it will reach farther than most people should even consider
shooting. I am on # 6 in the 270 roy, and patiently waiting for # 7, which
I ordered over a year ago. If you opt for the 270, you will be very impressed with the way that it performs on game.
By the way, me and a friend went out shooting gophers. I was using my 270 mag, and he was using his 7 mm. My gophers flew 30 feet in the air and were still flying apart during flight on every shot. His gophers were dragged along the ground and torn apart. He could never get one airborn with the 7mm mag.
Whichever one you opt for, enjoy. They are both excellent calibers, but my vote will always be the 270 Weatherby.
shooting. I am on # 6 in the 270 roy, and patiently waiting for # 7, which
I ordered over a year ago. If you opt for the 270, you will be very impressed with the way that it performs on game.
By the way, me and a friend went out shooting gophers. I was using my 270 mag, and he was using his 7 mm. My gophers flew 30 feet in the air and were still flying apart during flight on every shot. His gophers were dragged along the ground and torn apart. He could never get one airborn with the 7mm mag.
Whichever one you opt for, enjoy. They are both excellent calibers, but my vote will always be the 270 Weatherby.
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So what say you Laker? Did you decide?
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Are you saying you're on rifle #6? And waiting for #7? All in 270Wby? Or are you rebarrelling as you shoot them out? (Which is also a foreign concept to me, as I just don't shoot enough in any of my guns to have a barrel get shot out. And I reload and shoot quite a bit.) If you are just buying and selling, keep me posted, I might want your leftovers at some point down the line!!!
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Im going to get the 270 weatherby. Those 140 grain accubonds sound sweet for it. I have to first wait till the spring to sell my coyote hides before i will have enough money to buy one. I wont be able to do much calling this winter though with basketball but i should get enough coyotes anyway.
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I am buying and selling the 270 weatherby's after about 1000 rounds go down the tube. One year, I burned 12 pounds of powder between the 270 and the 300. :grin: I shoot a lot.
